Smutthull -the rat hole

Startet av ConTrari, desember 26, 2012, 15:46:31 PM

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Amatør1
Her finder du 2 afsnitt fra Graz. SKUMMELT.

http://www.uni-graz.at/richard.parncutt/climatechange.html
Bemerk dato.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rqQOIJaq-HkJ:www.uni-graz.at/richard.parncutt/climatechange.html+&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de

Linkene ble funnet i denne linken som Dere også må lese.
Eussr: Velkommen til fængslet af nationer.
EU Rådets formand Herman Van Rompuy holdt en tale, der ikke blev sendt i mediene. det var simpelthen alt for pinligt

http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/deutschland/udo-ulfkotte/eudssr-willkommen-im-voelkergefaengnis.html
Det er ikke noe farligere i verden enn opprigtig uvitenhet og pliktoppfyllende dumhet.
Martin Luther King.

ConTrari

Sitat fra: Amatør1 på desember 27, 2012, 20:42:53 PM
Et eksempel på en begynnende håndtering av rotteplagen er å finne i University of Graz, Østerrike sin respons på en klage over professor Richard Parncutts krav om dødsstraff for klimaskeptikere på universitetets nettsider. Fra WUWT ser vi at universitetet svarer:



"Die Karl-Franzens-Universität Graz ist bestürzt und entsetzt über die Ansicht und distanziert sich davon klar und deutlich. Die Universität legt größten Wert, dass die Wahrung aller Menschenrechte zu den obersten Prinzipien der Universität Graz gehört und menschenverachtende Aussagen mit aller Entschiedenheit zurückgewiesen werden. Die Universität weist zusätzlich mit Nachdruck darauf hin, dass eine rein persönliche Ansicht, die nicht im Zusammenhang mit der wissenschaftlichen Arbeit steht, auf universitären Webseiten nicht toleriert wird.

The University of Graz is shocked and appalled by the article and rejects its arguments entirely. The University places considerable importance on respecting all human rights and does not accept inhuman statements. Furthermore, the University of Graz points out clearly that a personal and individual opinion which is not related to scientific work cannot be tolerated on websites of the University.

    Helmut Konrad
    Dean, Faculty of Humanities and the Arts"




Dette er i det minste en begynnelse.

Mannen er farlig, vil jeg si. Tankeoppsettet som han demonstrerer viser et sinn som må være dypt forstyrret. Og så kan man lure på hvorfor en professor i "systematic musicology" skriver dødstrusler om klimaskeptikere på universitetets nettsted? Ikke akkurat en fagperson, men vi får håpe han nå blir "fagfellevurdert" litt grundigere enn pressemeldingen fra arbeidsgiver gir innrykk av. Han virker en smule umusikalsk....og er altså fra Australia, der det jo finnes endel rabiate alarmister.

Mr. Parncutt har nok utelukket seg selv fra noe rottehull med ord som dette:

"If a jury of suitably qualified scientists estimated that a given GW denier had already, with high probability (say 95%), caused the deaths of over one million future people, then s/he would be sentenced to death. The sentence would then be commuted to life imprisonment if the accused admitted their mistake, demonstrated genuine regret, AND participated significantly and positively over a long period in programs to reduce the effects of GW (from jail) – using much the same means that were previously used to spread the message of denial. At the end of that process, some GW deniers would never admit their mistake and as a result they would be executed. Perhaps that would be the only way to stop the rest of them. The death penalty would have been justified in terms of the enormous numbers of saved future lives."

Vi får håpe han kan sin Mozart bedre enn sin matte:

"... given the inherent uncertainty surrounding climatic predictions, even exaggerated accounts must be considered possible, albeit with a low probability. Consider this: If ten million people are going to die with a probability of 10%, that is like one million people dying with a probability of 100%."


http://joannenova.com.au/2012/12/death-threats-anyone-austrian-prof-global-warming-deniers-should-be-sentenced-to-death/

ConTrari

Man kan se nederst i Parncutts tekst en takk til Dr. John Sloboda, "for ideer og støtte". Lurer på hva Sloboda mener om dette idag?? Pat Frank kommenterer på WUWT:

"Dr. Sloboda is an interesting case. He is an emeritus professor of Keele University, Newcastle-under-Lyme, UK, where he researched psychology and music. He is also senior management of the Oxford Research Group, which bills itself as, "a leading independent think-tank that has been influential for 30 years in pioneering the idea of sustainable approaches to security as an alternative to violent global confrontation..." (my bold). The inadvertent irony is astonishing."

Hmmm, vil ORG føle et aldri så lite behov for å distansere seg fra slike personer? De skal liksom ikke støtte en "End-Lösung"?

"Who we are

ORG brings together a group of conflict resolution experts, security and international relations specialists, psychologists, media people, political analysts and international lawyers, all linked by a determination to develop alternative solutions to conflict."


http://www.oxfordresearchgroup.org.uk/about/who



Amatør1

Det ser ut til å være denne gjengen, med det uskyldige navnet World Future Council som er hovedinspirator for Parncutts endlösung-ideer.

Logo-bildet oppe til høyre minner meg om noe...

Legg merke til at nok en nobelprisvinner Wangari Maathai er i farta i "WFC Global Policy Action Plan" og krever at "Governments to agree an amendment to the statutes of the International Criminal Court to criminalise acts that cause irreversible damage to our natural environment"

Det er på tide disse folkene vurderes etter sin egen målestokk.
It is easier to lie to someone than to convince them, that they have been lied to

ConTrari

De får nok et noe uønsket søkelys på seg nå, ja  8)

Hva skal man si om dem, nok en troskyldig forening for alle slags gode ønsker? Som vi vel ikke trenger fler av.
Uansett en beskjeden organisasjon, 18 ansatte inklusive freelancere.

"Who we are

The World Future Council (WFC) consists of 50 respected personalities from all five continents. They represent governments, parliaments, the arts, civil society, academia and the business world. Together they form a voice for the rights of future generations. The World Future Council is a charitable foundation reliant on donations."


Men en smule frekt å tilrane seg retten til å representere fremtidens mennesker.

ConTrari

#20
Sitat fra: Spiren på desember 27, 2012, 21:02:01 PM
Amatør1
Her finder du 2 afsnitt fra Graz. SKUMMELT.

http://www.uni-graz.at/richard.parncutt/climatechange.html
Bemerk dato.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rqQOIJaq-HkJ:www.uni-graz.at/richard.parncutt/climatechange.html+&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de

Linkene ble funnet i denne linken som Dere også må lese.
Eussr: Velkommen til fængslet af nationer.
EU Rådets formand Herman Van Rompuy holdt en tale, der ikke blev sendt i mediene. det var simpelthen alt for pinligt

http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/deutschland/udo-ulfkotte/eudssr-willkommen-im-voelkergefaengnis.html

Det er fint, spiren!

Her er link til Tallbloke, som har originalen:

http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/prof-richard-parncutt-death-penalty-for-global-warming-deniers/


ConTrari

I kommentarene hos Tallbloke siteres også en annen uttalelse fra Parncutt på universitetets nettsted (som nå er fjernet):

"Parncutt is not popular with his colleagues. He is an arrogant, fanatical oddball. This is him whinging:

"During the 1990s I (an Australian) applied for professorships in several different Canadian, American, British, German and Austrian universities without success. In most cases, the person who was offered the job was clearly less qualified that I am...."

"In recent years, I was repeatedly attacked by workplace colleagues with the apparent intention of forcing me to leave my department. The stated reasons were generally arbitrary, exaggerated, misleading or invented; the real reasons were presumably my cultural and disciplinary Otherness, coupled with envy of my research record, my interdisciplinary and international mobility, and my desire to promote transparency and high academic standards.

"To my astonishment, other colleagues not only failed to defend me – sometimes they even sided with the attacker/s. While many people were unsure what exactly was going on, they were also generally unwilling to be informed. Again, this is a subject statement, and readers may reasonable suspect me of being a bit paranoid."

"From 1999 to 2006 I was looking for financial support for an applied interdisciplinary project about racism and xenophobia that was supported by researchers in a range of disciplines at the University of Graz. Several major grant applications wereignored (evidently not even reviewed)."


Så en smule ustemt har nok denne musikkprofessoren vært en stund....

Amatør1

Sitat fra: Spiren på desember 27, 2012, 21:02:01 PM
Amatør1
Her finder du 2 afsnitt fra Graz. SKUMMELT.

http://www.uni-graz.at/richard.parncutt/climatechange.html
Bemerk dato.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rqQOIJaq-HkJ:www.uni-graz.at/richard.parncutt/climatechange.html+&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de

Spiren, nå er teksten i den første linken din endret for andre gang, den lyder nå i sin helhet slik:

Sitat
Global warming

I wish to apologize publicly to all those who were offended by texts that were previously posted at this address. I made claims that were incorrect and comparisons that were completely inappropriate, which I deeply regret. I would also like to thank all those who took the time and trouble to share their thoughts in emails.

In October 2012, I wrote the following on this page: "I have always been opposed to the death penalty in all cases, and I have always supported the clear and consistent stand of Amnesty International on this issue. The death penalty is barbaric, racist, expensive, and is often applied by mistake." I wish to confirm that this is indeed my opinion. I have been a member of Amnesty International for at least 14 years, and I admire and support their consistent stance on this issue.

Richard Parncutt, 27 December 2012

The opinions expressed on this page are the personal opinions of the author.

Smart, men sent.
It is easier to lie to someone than to convince them, that they have been lied to

Amatør1

Sitat fra: Amatør1 på desember 27, 2012, 22:17:20 PM
Det ser ut til å være denne gjengen, med det uskyldige navnet World Future Council som er hovedinspirator for Parncutts endlösung-ideer.

Logo-bildet oppe til høyre minner meg om noe...

Legg merke til at nok en nobelprisvinner Wangari Maathai er i farta i "WFC Global Policy Action Plan" og krever at "Governments to agree an amendment to the statutes of the International Criminal Court to criminalise acts that cause irreversible damage to our natural environment"

Det er på tide disse folkene vurderes etter sin egen målestokk.

Mer om denne skyggefulle organisasjonen, samt et navn vi husker....


John Gummer And The World Future Council
"Lord Deben, the politician formerly known as John Gummer, has recently been appointed as Chairman of the UK's Committee on Climate Change.

[...]

Just as intriguing, though, is his membership of a shadowy outfit, called the World Future Council. This membership was neither mentioned by DECC, nor included in his register of interests in Parliament. ( A short explanation about this. The interests, that a member must declare, are not necessarily simply financial, but must include anything that could potentially lead to a conflict of interest).

[...]

How did this man ever get near public office?

We deserve answers, and quickly."






Gummer goes on getting greener
"He started off badly by confusing global warming and ozone depletion in his first interview, roughly equivalent – I remember writing at the time – to a new foreign secretary confusing France and Germany. And shortly afterwards, to widespread amusement and delight,  he was called a "drittsekk" (or "shitbag") by the Norwegian environment minister in a spat over acid rain."



Thorbjørn Berntsen visste nok hva han snakket om i 1993.
It is easier to lie to someone than to convince them, that they have been lied to

ConTrari

Sitat fra: Amatør1 på desember 28, 2012, 01:51:50 AM
Sitat fra: Amatør1 på desember 27, 2012, 22:17:20 PM
Det ser ut til å være denne gjengen, med det uskyldige navnet World Future Council som er hovedinspirator for Parncutts endlösung-ideer.

Logo-bildet oppe til høyre minner meg om noe...

Legg merke til at nok en nobelprisvinner Wangari Maathai er i farta i "WFC Global Policy Action Plan" og krever at "Governments to agree an amendment to the statutes of the International Criminal Court to criminalise acts that cause irreversible damage to our natural environment"

Det er på tide disse folkene vurderes etter sin egen målestokk.

Mer om denne skyggefulle organisasjonen, samt et navn vi husker....


John Gummer And The World Future Council
"Lord Deben, the politician formerly known as John Gummer, has recently been appointed as Chairman of the UK's Committee on Climate Change.

[...]

Just as intriguing, though, is his membership of a shadowy outfit, called the World Future Council. This membership was neither mentioned by DECC, nor included in his register of interests in Parliament. ( A short explanation about this. The interests, that a member must declare, are not necessarily simply financial, but must include anything that could potentially lead to a conflict of interest).

[...]

How did this man ever get near public office?

We deserve answers, and quickly."






Gummer goes on getting greener
"He started off badly by confusing global warming and ozone depletion in his first interview, roughly equivalent – I remember writing at the time – to a new foreign secretary confusing France and Germany. And shortly afterwards, to widespread amusement and delight,  he was called a "drittsekk" (or "shitbag") by the Norwegian environment minister in a spat over acid rain."



Thorbjørn Berntsen visste nok hva han snakket om i 1993.

Vel, dette er nok bare en gærning. Lite å hente her, annet enn å  notere seg at ekstremisme -uttrykt som klimapolitikk eller annen politisk ekstremisme- er et utskudd i samfunnsdebatten, som alltid.

ConTrari

Sitat fra: Amatør1 på desember 28, 2012, 01:05:47 AM
Sitat fra: Spiren på desember 27, 2012, 21:02:01 PM
Amatør1
Her finder du 2 afsnitt fra Graz. SKUMMELT.

http://www.uni-graz.at/richard.parncutt/climatechange.html
Bemerk dato.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rqQOIJaq-HkJ:www.uni-graz.at/richard.parncutt/climatechange.html+&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de

Spiren, nå er teksten i den første linken din endret for andre gang, den lyder nå i sin helhet slik:

Sitat
Global warming

I wish to apologize publicly to all those who were offended by texts that were previously posted at this address. I made claims that were incorrect and comparisons that were completely inappropriate, which I deeply regret. I would also like to thank all those who took the time and trouble to share their thoughts in emails.

In October 2012, I wrote the following on this page: "I have always been opposed to the death penalty in all cases, and I have always supported the clear and consistent stand of Amnesty International on this issue. The death penalty is barbaric, racist, expensive, and is often applied by mistake." I wish to confirm that this is indeed my opinion. I have been a member of Amnesty International for at least 14 years, and I admire and support their consistent stance on this issue.

Richard Parncutt, 27 December 2012

The opinions expressed on this page are the personal opinions of the author.

Smart, men sent.

MEN

hans redigerte innlegg, med mye av de opprinnelige holdningene, står fortsatt på universitetets nettsted, såvidt jeg vet. Bare noe mindre om henrettelser.

Amatør1

Nei, det er fjernet nå. Han ble tvunget til det. les historien på WUWT:

Han har selvsagt ikke forandret mening....
It is easier to lie to someone than to convince them, that they have been lied to

ConTrari

Sitat fra: Amatør1 på desember 28, 2012, 02:14:14 AM
Nei, det er fjernet nå. Han ble tvunget til det. les historien på WUWT:

Han har selvsagt ikke forandret mening....

Jaja, mannen er jo bare en tosk. Som hans øvrige utgytelser viser...

Amatør1

Sitat fra: ConTrari på desember 28, 2012, 02:00:37 AM
Vel, dette er nok bare en gærning.

Desverre er det ikke "bare en gærning"....

"Lord Deben, the politician formerly known as John Gummer, has recently been appointed as Chairman of the UK's Committee on Climate Change.

The Committee was established under the Climate Change Act (2008), and advises the UK Government on setting and meeting carbon budgets and on preparing for the impacts of climate change. As such, it carries a good deal of influence on UK government policy and action."
It is easier to lie to someone than to convince them, that they have been lied to

Amatør1

Sitat fra: ConTrari på desember 28, 2012, 02:17:04 AM
Sitat fra: Amatør1 på desember 28, 2012, 02:14:14 AM
Nei, det er fjernet nå. Han ble tvunget til det. les historien på WUWT:

Han har selvsagt ikke forandret mening....

Jaja, mannen er jo bare en tosk. Som hans øvrige utgytelser viser...

Det som betyr noe, er at de som betyr noe faktisk tar avstand fra denslags, og ikke unnskylder dem som ubetydelige. I andre sammenhenger anses "hate speech" som særdeles alvorlig. Forhåpentlig forstår østerrikerne at dette vekker minner om forgangne tider.
It is easier to lie to someone than to convince them, that they have been lied to