Klimaforskning - hjemmeside
Startet av Amatør1, oktober 06, 2013, 22:31:30 PM
SitatThe climate alarmists have lost the debate: it's time we stopped indulging their poisonous fantasy As I argued here the other week, there is more than enough solid evidence now to demonstrate to any neutral party prepared to cast half an eye over it that the doomsday prognostications the warmist establishment has been trying to frighten us with these last two decades are a nonsense. The man-made global warming scare story has not a shred of scientific credibility. It's over. And while I don't expect the alarmists to admit this any time soon, I do think the rest of us should stop indulging them in their poisonous fantasy.
SitatI feel the same way when I read one of those on-the-one-hand-and-on-the-other think pieces from someone on the "sceptical" side of the argument or an editorial in a newspaper trying to position itself as the voice of reasonable authority on the climate issue. You know the sort I mean: where, in order to make his case seem more balanced and sympathetic the author concedes at the beginning that there are faults and extremists on both sides of the argument and that it's time we all met in the middle and found a sensible solution. (I call this the Dog Poo Yoghurt Fallacy)This is absurd, dishonest, inaccurate and counterproductive.
SitatClimate change 'scientists' are just another pressure groupThe IPCC and its reports have been shaped by a close-knit group of scientists, all dedicated to the cause Last weekend, something very odd happened. On Friday we were told that in Stockholm the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (the IPCC) had published a report saying that it was now "extremely likely" that the world faces disastrous man-made climate change. But this was merely a "summary" for politicians and the media of a scientific report that was not published until three days later.We then learnt that this "Summary for Policymakers" had been argued over for days and sleepless nights by hundreds of politicians, officials and scientists, but, weirdly, that the scientific report it supposedly summarised had subsequently been amended to bring it into line with the summary. One obvious change from previous drafts was the marked downplaying of any reference to how, in recent years, global temperatures have so notably failed to rise as the IPCC's computer models predicted.[...] Some years back, when I was researching a detailed history of the alarm over global warming, few things surprised me more than to discover just how wildly misleading was the picture given to the world of the IPCC as a genuinely scientific body, dispassionately assessing current knowledge of all the factors shaping our climate. The IPCC was set up in 1988 by a small group of scientists who were already wholly convinced that rising CO2 levels were the prime factor in causing global temperatures to rise. They were led by Prof Bert Bolin, appointed as the IPCC's first chairman, and Dr John Houghton, then head of the UK Met Office, who, for 14 years, remained head of its key Working Group 1, responsible for reporting on climate science.Since then the IPCC and its five major reports have essentially been shaped by a surprisingly small, close-knit group of scientists, all similarly dedicated to the cause. They have been determined not just to assemble all the evidence they could find to support their theory, however dubious it might be (as in the case of that notorious "hockey stick" graph); but, as we saw from the Climategate emails, to deride or ignore any that contradicted it.In years to come this will be looked back on as the most astonishing example in history of how the prestige of "science" can be used to promote a particular belief system, in this case with the aid of those skewed computer models that can be seen ever more clearly not to accord with the observed evidence.
Sitat fra: Telehiv på oktober 07, 2013, 11:59:39 AMAmatør 1,takk for at du her helt konkret tar opp det faktum at stadig flere tunge forskere og klimakommentatorer erklærer skeptikerne som vinner av klimadebatten, og viser det med kilder.
Sitat fra: Telehiv på oktober 07, 2013, 11:59:39 AMJeg la inn andre anerkjente forskere som sier det samme, bl.a. Roger Pielke Jr., på en annen tråd, som erklærte det samme:"There is really not much more to be said here — the data says what it says, and what it says is so unavoidably obvious that the IPCC has recognized it in its consensus. Of course, I have no doubts that claims will still be made associating floods, drought, hurricanes and tornadoes with human-caused climate change — Zombie science — but I am declaring victory in this debate. Climate campaigners would do their movement a favor by getting themselves on the right side of the evidence."
Sitat fra: Telehiv på oktober 07, 2013, 11:59:39 AMHåper flere støtter opp under denne tråden med flere eksempler på at tillitsklimaet er i ferd med å ytterlige skifte fra IPCC til skremsels-skeptikerne.
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Sitat fra: Telehiv på oktober 14, 2013, 10:09:03 AMSom dere ser er smartskalles forsøk på å få debatt rundt dette på VGD uten respons. VGD-trollene skjønner at dette må ties i hjel, og er derfor nå manisk opptatte av å starte nye egendefinerte alarmisttråder som kan dytte slikt ubehag nedover siden. Anbefaler derfor smartskalle å løfte tråden opp igjen jevnlig, slik at trollene blir sittende og produsere avledningstråder til langt på natt igjen