1336.txt, Jansen++ om Climate Audit

Startet av Amatør1, november 22, 2011, 22:21:38 PM

« forrige - neste »


Eystein Jansen har lest Climate Audit siden 2006, men synes ikke noe om det som står der. Allikevel aksepterer han Steve McIntyre som en av nøkkelpersonene innenfor paleoklimaforskningen....

Forøvrig karakteriserer han CA sine lesere som en "trist forsamling".

Sitat fra: 1336.txt
At 12:50 09/03/2006, Eystein Jansen wrote:
>Hi Phil, thanks for the greetings. 
> [[[ privat info fjernet ]]]
> should be up and going in good
>time for Wengen and for LA4.
>One side effect of being stranded and in horisontal working mode is more
>time to browse the net, thus I have monitored the Climate Audit page.
>Looking at the discussions after the NAS panel meeting we should expect
>focus now to be sidetracked from PC-analyses and over to the issue of bad
>proxies and divergence from temperature in the last 50 years. Thus this
>last aspect needs to be tackled  more candidly in AR4 than in the SOD, and
>we need to discuss how to do this, soon. The Key expert here is Keith and
>I guess we should be able to assess the situation based on his and
>D´Arrigo´s work and the expertise at hand.
>The rather sad crowd of followers who put their confused ideas onto the
>blog is one thing - they can´t make up their mind if tree-rings are
>correct over the past 50 years and the Instrumental data wrong (UHI story)
>or vice versa. The more important aspect is that the blog is now used a
>lot by media and McIntyre has immediate access to the international media
>in the form of being one of the key players in terms of paleoclimate,
>ironocally enough. He is extremely determined, has his skewed viewpoints
>and is of course very pompous, but the blog is effective for his goals.
It is easier to lie to someone than to convince them, that they have been lied to


Phil Jones responderer til Eystein Jansen med et glimt av både sin usikkerhet og sin manglende usikkerhet.

Sitat fra: Phil JonesDear All,
     A lot of good points raised by the horizontal Eystein. Keith is
  hoping to do something on the recent tree growth issue.

     What this sad crowd (nice words - I'll use the phrase again) don't
  realise is that the satellite data now agree with the surface. This is
  said in Ch 3 and will come home more forcefully once the CCSP
  report on vertical temperature trends comes out. This should be
  April or May according to Tom Karl who is overseeing it all. I say
  should as it apparently has to be approved by the White House!
  Peck will know why this is and the expertise of the people doing
  the approval!

     I can say for certain (100% - not any probable word that IPCC
  would use) is that the surface temperature data are correct.

     McIntyre is determined and the blog does influence people, unfortuately
  the media.  As you say as issues are partially closed, they will move on
  to others.

It is easier to lie to someone than to convince them, that they have been lied to