Klimaforskning - hjemmeside
Startet av Gloføken, november 05, 2011, 14:31:56 PM
SitatBecause either you can tell us, simply and clearly, how your "Jelbring effect" is supposed to work, or you are worse than useless and should just audit the discussion because you have nothing to add.
Sitat"Because either you can tell us, simply and clearly, how your "Jelbring effect" is supposed to work, or you are worse than useless and should just audit the discussion because you have nothing to add." This is a sad state of affairs. I hate to say this, but there's a need of a moderator to moderate the moderator. This debate seems to be over. Time-out.
SitatThe problem was not your error. We all make those. It was that you were acting like a jerkwagon about it, insulting people for their stupidity when you were the one being stupid.And the problem is not that you made a fool of yourself, it's not all about you, really. The problem is that you insulted everyone, and you still haven't apologized for that, only for your "it's all about me" mistake ...w.
SitatWillis Eschenbach says: January 14, 2012 at 4:20 pm Alexander Feht says: January 14, 2012 at 12:41 pm (Edit)Willis Eschenbach says: January 14, 2012 at 1:36 am Go away, sir, your impudence knows no bounds. You haven't a tenth of the knowledge you claim.I made a mistake, and admitted it. My childhood memories let me down. I was so sure I remembered it correctly that I didn't check before posting (something I usually do). It will serve me right to be more prepared next time.Which doesn't give you any ground to dismiss out of hand anything else I said or may say in the future, or to make sweeping and insulting conclusions about the volume of my knowledge.As I said, and as you robustly ignored, your mistake is not the point, we all make those. The point is that you were a dickhead about it, insulting me, and insulting the other posters for "following my lead". Nor did you apologize for acting like a prick, you only say "sorry I made a mistake". That's why I said "go away". You insult people, then you pretend there was no insult.By commanding everybody who disagrees with you to "go away," you are making yourself more and more ridiculous every time. Not to mention that your insulting language, which you alone are allowed to use with impunity on this forum, makes me even more determined to keep you in check.First, since you are still here, it's obvious that I don't "command" anyone.Second, I don't tell "everybody who disagrees" with me to go away, Alexander, just the ones like who are assh*les about their disagreement. Before your arrival on the scene, Mr. Eschenbach, this site was almost 100% civil. Now, with your non-moderated outbursts, whatever are the merits of some of your articles, it stinks of favoritism.Well gosh, Alexander, if you don't like the site then ... I hate to say it, but in that case here's a novel idea—go away. I will not blow in your ear and pat your tummy and pretend to be your friend when you come in here to tell us all what absolute jerks we are and you lambaste people for following my lead. You want someone to blow in your ear, you'll have to apply to another thread. Here, on the other hand, you might actually learn something. Up to you, I'm not banning you.w.
Sitat"A simplified model of Earth will be considered. The model planet does not rotate. It neither receives solar radiation nor emits infrared radiation into space. "
SitatSo let us assume that we have the airless perfectly evenly heated blackbody planet that I spoke of above, evenly surrounded by a sphere of mini-suns. The temperature of this theoretical planet is, of course, the theoretical S-B temperature. Now suppose we add an atmosphere to the planet, a transparent GHG-free atmosphere. If the theories of N&K and Jelbring are correct, the temperature of the planet will rise. But when the temperature of a perfect blackbody planet rises ... the surface radiation of that planet must rise as well. And because the atmosphere is transparent, this means that the planet is radiating to space more energy than it receives. This is an obvious violation of conservation of energy, so any theories proposing such a warming must be incorrect.