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Eystein Jansen, Bjerknessenteret har en metode som nok ligner mer på agitatorens enn på forskerens: Han innser at han vil bli sterkt kritisert for å skjule data, men mener å kunne omgå dette fordi han har en agenda å formidle:

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>> Eystein Jansen wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I think both Keith's and Tom's emails highlight some of the problems
>>> when going from hemispheric scale reconstructions to plots of
>>> individual records or regional groupings of them. First I agree with
>>> Keith concerning the reality of a warmer MWP on average, we cannot
>>> leave the impression that there was no warmth when making the
>>> argument that it had lots of geographical and temporal diversity.
>>> We should make it clear the distinction between reconstructions and
>>> individual series.
>>> Concerning Tom's point about which series to include, I see the
>>> point of avoiding oversampling one region, but there is a problem as
>>> soon as we start bringinging indivifual series together to make a
>>> regional composite. We will undoubtedly be attacked for not showing
>>> all available data, but can come around this by stating yhat the
>>> purpose is not that of a reconstruction, rather to drive home the
>>> point of geograhy/temporal diversity  through typical series. I
>>> would also concur that we should omit the Chesapeak series, if the
>>> data is Cronin's Mg/Ca data. There are too many uncertainties on
>>> salinity influences on this proxy, plus it is radiocarbon based.
>>> Both here and in the text the lack of low lat series needs to be
>>> pointed out.
>>> I think we should stick to the agreement from our conf.call and only
>>> show the 800-1300 AD interval. This will avoid confusion wrt the
>>> reconstruction fig. in the main chapter.
>>> Cheers
>>> Eystein
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Sv: 0265.txt, Jansen: We will be attacked for not showing all available data
« Svar #1 på: November 22, 2011, 21:04:39 pm »
Eystein Jansen, Bjerknessenteret har en metode som nok ligner mer på agitatorens enn på forskerens: Han innser at han vil bli sterkt kritisert for å skjule data, men mener å kunne omgå dette fordi han har en agenda å formidle

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Sv: 0265.txt, Jansen: We will be attacked for not showing all available data
« Svar #2 på: November 22, 2011, 21:09:37 pm »
Han og Bjerknessenteret får penger for å omgå sannheten? Virkelig betryggende. Flott funn, Amatør1! :D
Ja heldigvis flere der ser galskapen; men stadig alt for få.
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