Dagens link om alt annet enn klima

[Ewer Gladblakk.]

Et helt passasjerfly med alle ombord, lurt i graven på et totralt urimelig vis.
Og så fortsetter hele det vanlige "skuespillet" med alle teaterdører på vidt gap....også det som vanlig!

[Jostemikk]

Et helt passasjerfly med alle ombord, lurt i graven på et totralt urimelig vis.
Og så fortsetter hele det vanlige "skuespillet" med alle teaterdører på vidt gap....også det som vanlig!

Det har du rett i, Ewer. Alt er som vanlig. De har prøvd alt dette tidligere, og det virket etter hensikten da, så hvorfor gjøre om oppskriften? Det er MSM som gjør at de kan holde på. Når de kontrollerer MSM, kontrollerer de samtidig folket.

[Amatør1]

Zero Hedge

Russia Says Has Photos Of Ukraine Deploying BUK Missiles In East, Radar Proof Of Warplanes In MH17 Vicinity

10 more questions Russian military pose to Ukraine, US over MH17 crash

1. Why did the MH17 plane leave the international corridor?
"Please note that the plane stayed within the corridor until it reached Donetsk but then it deviated from the route to the north," said Kartopolov.

2. Was MH17 leaving the route a navigation mistake or was the crew following instructions by Ukrainian air traffic controllers in Dnepropetrovsk?
"The maximum deviation from the left border of the corridor was 14 km. Following that, we can see the plane maneuvering to return to the corridor, yet the Malaysian crew did not get a chance to complete the maneuver. At 17.20, the plane began to lose speed, and at 17.23 it disappeared from Russian radars."

3. Why was a large group of air defense systems deployed to the militia-held area if the self-defense forces have no planes?
"As far as we know, the Ukrainian military had three or four air defense battalions equipped with Buk-M1 SAM systems deployed in the vicinity of Donetsk on the day of the crash. This system is capable of hitting targets within the range of 35 km at the altitude of up to 22 km."

4. Why did Kiev deploy Buk missile system right next to the militia-controlled area straight ahead of the tragedy?
"We have satellite photos of the places where Ukraine had its air defense units deployed in the southeastern parts of the country. The first three photos were made on July 14. The first photo shows Buk launchers 8 km northwest of Lugansk. You can clearly see a TELAR and two TELs. The second photo shows radars 5 km north of Donetsk. You can see two TARs along with other equipment and technical structures. The third photo shows air defense systems north of Donetsk. You can clearly see a TELAR launcher and about 60 military and auxiliary vehicles, tents for vehicles and other structures.

5. On the day of the crash Kiev increased activity on its Kupol-M1 9S18 radars, which are components of the Buk system in the area. Why?
"Also, July 17 saw increased activity on the part of Ukraine's Kupol-M1 9S18 radars, which are part of the Buk system. Here on this chart you see that there were seven radars operating on July 15, eight radars operating on July 16, and nine radars operating on July 17 in the area. Then, starting with July 18, the intensity of radar activities radically decreased, and now there are no more than two or three radars operating a day. The reason behind this is yet to be found."

6. What was a military plane doing on the route intended for civilian flights?
"There were three civilian planes in the area performing their regular flights at this time. There was a flight from Copenhagen to Singapore at 17:17, there was a flight from Paris to Taipei at 17:24, and then there was the flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur."

"Also, Russian monitoring systems registered that there was a Ukrainian Air Force jet, probably Su-25, climbing and approaching the Malaysian Boeing."

"The Su-25 was 3-5 km away from the Malaysian plane. Su-25 is capable of climbing to the altitude of 10,000 meters for a short period of time. Its standard armament includes R60 air-to-air missiles, which are capable of locking and hitting targets from 12 km and which are guaranteed to hit the target from the distance of 5 km."

7. Why was the military jet flying at almost the same time and the same altitude with a passenger plane?
"At 17:21'35, with [the Boeing's] velocity having dropped to 200 kilometers per hour, a new mark detecting an airborne object appears at the spot of the Boeing's destruction. This new airborne object was continuously detected for the duration of four minutes by the radar stations Ust-Donetsk and Buturinskaya. An air traffic controller requested the characteristics of the new airborne object, but was unable to get any readings on its parameters – most likely due to the fact that the new aircraft was not equipped with a secondary surveillance radar transponder, which is a distinctive feature of military aircraft," said Makushev.

"Detecting the new aircraft became possible as it started to ascend. Further changes in the airborne object's coordinates suggest that it was hovering above the Boeing 777's crash site, monitoring of the situation.

"Ukrainian officials earlier claimed that there were no Ukrainian military aircraft in the area of the crash that day. As you can see, that is not true."

8. Where did the launcher – from the video circulated by Western media and showing a Buk system being moved allegedly from Ukraine to Russia – come from? As the video was made on the territory controlled by Kiev, where was the launcher being transported?

"I'd like to say that the information we have presented here is based on objective and reliable data from various technical systems – unlike the groundless accusations made against Russia," said Kartopolov.

"For example, media circulated a video supposedly showing a Buk system being moved from Ukraine to Russia. This is clearly a fabrication. This video was made in the town of Krasnoarmeisk, as evidenced by the billboard you see in the background, advertising a car dealership at 34 Dnepropetrovsk Street. Krasnoarmeysk has been controlled by the Ukrainian military since May 11."

9. Where is it right now? Why are some of the missiles missing on the launcher? When was the last time a missile was launched from it?




10. Why haven't US officials revealed the evidence supporting claims that the MH17 was shot down by a missile launched by the militia?

"US officials claim they have satellite photographs proving the Malaysian airliner was shot down by a missile launched by the militia. But no one has seen these photographs so far. As far as we know, there was indeed a US satellite flying over southeastern Ukraine on July 17 from 17:06 to 17:21 Moscow time.

"This satellite is part of an experimental system designed to track and monitor the launches of missiles of various ranges. If our US colleagues have imagery from this satellite, they should release it for the international community to examine it in detail. This may be a coincidence, but the US satellite flew over Ukraine at exactly the same time when the Malaysian airliner crashed."

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for flere bilder og video, se link

[Jostemikk]

Takk for at du presenterer alt dette interessante stoffet om saken, Amatør1. Det siste døgnets avsløringer har gjort vestlig MSM fullstendig tause om skyldspørsmålet. Da Putin ba USA være så snille å legge fram alt de hadde av satellittbilder slik at verden kunne få se hva som skjedde, ble det plutselig tyst som i en grav.

For det er jo virkelig litt merkelig at USAs politikere uttaler at de har bevis for hvem som sto bak, men samtidig er så motvillige til å legge ut denne dokumentasjonen. Kan de ha malt seg inn i historiens trangeste hjørne?

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Takk for at du presenterer alt dette interessante stoffet om saken, Amatør1. Det siste døgnets avsløringer har gjort vestlig MSM fullstendig tause om skyldspørsmålet. Da Putin ba USA være så snille å legge fram alt de hadde av satellittbilder slik at verden kunne få se hva som skjedde, ble det plutselig tyst som i en grav.

Tause? Tja, NRK melder i dag at OSSE-observatørene har funnet flydeler som er blitt tuklet med.

Det er Mikael Bociurkiw, en talsperson for OSSE, som forteller til BBC at flere store vrakrester fra Malaysia Airlines-flyet ser annerledes ut i dag enn de gjorde for et par dager siden.

Bociurkiw befinner seg nå ved krasjstedet og forteller til BBC at de har sett hvordan flere deler av flyet er endret, blant annet deler av det som var cockpiten på flyet.

Observatørene fra OSSE har vært i Ukraina siden april, og var de første internasjonale observatørene som fikk tilgang til krasjstedet.

http://www.nrk.no/verden/osse-sier-vrakdeler-er-endret-1.11843243

[Smiley]

Svaret her er enkelt. Pro russiske styrker var ute etter de Ukrainske jagerflyet men forvekslet det med passasjerflyet. 70 tallets russiske raketbatterier er sikkert ikke avanserte nok til å avbryte etter utskytning.

Det ville vært totalt ulogisk av Ukraina å plassere et luftforsvarsystem så nærmer grensen at det kunne saboteres av Pro russiske styrker. Og som russerne selv påpeker har ikke Pro russiske styrker noe flyvåpen. Så derfor var raketbatteriet under russisk kontroll og Putin har fått et stort problem.

[Jostemikk]

Dette er et brev som den frivillige legen/kirurgen Mads Gilbert har skrevet, og han ønsker at det skal spres.

The last night was extreme. The "ground invasion" of Gaza resulted in scores and carloads with maimed, torn apart, bleeding, shivering, dying – all sorts of injured Palestinians, all ages, all civilians, all innocent.

The heroes in the ambulances and in all of Gaza's hospitals are working 12-24 hour shifts, grey from fatigue and inhuman workloads (without payment all in Shifa for the last 4 months), they care, triage, try to understand the incomprehensible chaos of bodies, sizes, limbs, walking, not walking, breathing, not breathing, bleeding, not bleeding humans. HUMANS!
Now, once more treated like animals by "the most moral army in the world" (sic!).

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Mads Gilbert MD PhD
.

My respect for the wounded is endless, in their contained determination in the midst of pain, agony and shock; my admiration for the staff and volunteers is endless, my closeness to the Palestinian "sumud" gives me strength, although in glimpses I just want to scream, hold someone tight, cry, smell the skin and hair of the warm child, covered in blood, protect ourselves in an endless embrace – but we cannot afford that, nor can they.

Ashy grey faces – Oh NO! Not one more load of tens of maimed and bleeding, we still have lakes of blood on the floor in the ER, piles of dripping, blood-soaked bandages to clear out – oh – the cleaners, everywhere, swiftly shovelling the blood and discarded tissues, hair, clothes,cannulas – the leftovers from death – all taken away ... to be prepared again, to be repeated all over. More then 100 cases came to Shifa in the last 24 hrs. Enough for a large well trained hospital with everything, but here – almost nothing: no electricity, water, disposables, drugs, OR-tables, instruments, monitors – all rusted and as if taken from museums of yesterday's hospitals. But they do not complain, these heroes. They get on with it, like warriors, head on, enormously resolute.

And as I write these words to you, alone, on a bed, my tears flow, the warm but useless tears of pain and grief, of anger and fear. This is not happening!
An then, just now, the orchestra of the Israeli war-machine starts its gruesome symphony again, just now: salvos of artillery from the navy boats just down on the shores, the roaring F16, the sickening drones (Arabic 'Zennanis', the hummers), and the cluttering Apaches. So much made in and paid by the US.

I invite you – spend one night – just one night – with us in Shifa. Disguised as a cleaner, maybe.

I am convinced, 100%, it would change history.

Nobody with a heart AND power could ever walk away from a night in Shifa without being determined to end the slaughter of the Palestinian people.

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Volunteers tend to the wounded of Gaza.

But the heartless and merciless have done their calculations and planned another "dahyia" onslaught on Gaza.
The rivers of blood will keep running the coming night. I can hear they have tuned their instruments of death.
Please. Do what you can. This, THIS cannot continue.


Mads Gilbert MD PhD
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Professor and Clinical Head

Clinic of Emergency Medicine

University Hospital of North Norway

[Telehiv]

Mads Gilberts fortvilte skrik mot en urettferdig himmel minner meg sjokkerende nok altfor mye om skrikene vi hørte nede fra kontinentet fra 1933 og utover, da dagens herremennesker i Midt-Østen ble tatt en for en rundt om i Europa, uten at den "siviliserte" verden rundt dem fant å protestere.

Det er vel derfor igjen tid for å sitere Martin Niemuller, tysk prest og antinazist som satt i konsentrasjonsleir i Tyskland fra 1937 -1945:

Først kom de for å ta kommunistene
men jeg protesterte ikke
for jeg var ikke kommunist.

Så kom de for å ta fagforeningsmedlemmene,
Men jeg protesterte ikke
for jeg var ikke fagforeningsmedlem.

Så kom de for å ta jødene og sigøynerne,
men jeg protesterte ikke
for jeg var ikke jøde eller sigøyner.

Så kom de for å ta de homofile,
men jeg protesterte ikke
for jeg var ikke homofil.

Da de kom for å ta meg,
var det ingen igjen som kunne protestere.

Det er bare en hake ved denne historien; denne gangen er det de tidligere ofrene som er overgriperne.

[Ewer Gladblakk.]

.......Da de kom for å ta meg,
var det ingen igjen som kunne protestere....

Det er nok best å bare vente, hvis man helst vil ha mest rett!

[Amatør1]

Svaret her er enkelt. Pro russiske styrker var ute etter de Ukrainske jagerflyet men forvekslet det med passasjerflyet. 70 tallets russiske raketbatterier er sikkert ikke avanserte nok til å avbryte etter utskytning.

Det ville vært totalt ulogisk av Ukraina å plassere et luftforsvarsystem så nærmer grensen at det kunne saboteres av Pro russiske styrker. Og som russerne selv påpeker har ikke Pro russiske styrker noe flyvåpen. Så derfor var raketbatteriet under russisk kontroll og Putin har fått et stort problem.

Dette er mildt sagt ikke riktig. Se på fakta og ikke la antagelsene styre.

- Det finnes ikke noe mer hold i påstanden om at "prorussiske" (tendensiøs betegnelse, de er russisktalende ukrainere) var "ute etter de Ukrainske jagerflyet" som de ikke engang visste befant seg der, enn at CO2 forårsaker global oppvarming. Hvis du vet noe konkret om dette, legg det fram, så får vi se.

- Du sier "Det ville vært totalt ulogisk av Ukraina å plassere et luftforsvarsystem så nærmer grensen". Men faktum er jo at de jo utplasserte i nærheten av Krasnoarmeisk, slik russiske sattelittbilder og bakke-videoer viser. I og med at de "prorussiske" ikke har noen fly, er det langt mer aktuelt å spørre om hvorfor Kiev-ukrainerne gjorde dette, og hvor det ble av de 2 rakettene de hadde. Bildene viser jo at det mangler to raketter.

Det er et uttrykk som heter "Cui bono", det er aktuelt her. Det er i prinsippet 3 aktuelle parter

- Kiev-ukrainerne som kuppet seg til makten i februar
- Russisktalende øst-ukrionare i Donetsk mm. som ønsker selvstendighet fra det nåværende regimet
- Russland

Hvis vi starter nederst, så har Russland ingen interesse av å skyte ned sivile fly på denne måten, på ingen måte. De har jo forøvrig opplevet å få et av sine egne passasjerfly (TU-154) fly skutt ned - av Ukraina - 4. Oktober 2001. Det fløy over svartehavet fra tel Aviv til Novosibirsk og ble truffet av en ukrainsk bakke-til-luft-rakett. Siberia Airlines Flight 1812. Ukraina betalte 15 millioner US dollar til ofre of familier.

De russiktalende øst-ukrainerne har hatt framgang i striden mot Kiev, og har ingenting å tjene på å trekke resten av verden inn på denne måten. Dessuten er de påståtte bevisene mot den ikke lagt fram noe sted. At vestlig MSM kjører en kampanje uten saklig grunnlag er ikke noe nytt, men dette er mer enn vanlig åpenbart i dette tilfellet.

Kiev-ukrainerne har derimot alt å vinne, noe de seinere dagene viser. Kiev støtter seg på USA og EU og disse backer opp Kiev med alle midler nå. Kiev har alt å tjene på å forsøke å samle hele verden bak seg mot øst-ukrainerne, for de ser ikke ut til å få til noen framgang utover å bombe sivile i storbyen Donetsk (~1 mill innbyggere).

Men det som kanskje betyr aller mest er det som skjedde i Brasil, Fortaleza den 15. Juli i år. Det forklerer det meste.

[Amatør1]

DOWNED FLIGHT MH17 - Recovered PASSPORTS in PERFECT CONDITION Also Expired Passport

http://www.youtube.com/v/RkIEpuy4VV8?version=3&hl=en_US

Nye, ubrukte pass. Et malaysisk pass er ugyldig med trekant klippet ut på forsiden, et nederlandsk pass er ugyldig med hull punchet igjennom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkIEpuy4VV8&t=1m24s

[Ewer Gladblakk.]

Det er nok best å bare å vente, hvis man helst vil ha mest rett med så mangt

[Jostemikk]

Den 8. mars 2014 forsvant flight MH370 fra Malaysian Airlines sporløst fra radaren

Forsvinningen er et mysterium på den måten at ingen er i stand til å finne rasjonelle forklaringer på hva som skjedde. Amatør1 hadde flere interessante innlegg om denne saken.

Flyet forsvant plutselig fra radaren og er etter mer enn 3 måneder fortsatt ikke funnet. De fleste anså jo denne forsvinningen som ytterst mistenkelig fra første stund, se f.eks. omtale her og her.

Vi aner konturene av noe som skjer også andre steder.

Dagen etter la seoto ut dette innlegget:

Begynner dette å bli en vane - at fly forsvinner fra radaren, mener jeg? Det har også skjedd i Europa den 5. og 10. juni.

Electronic war games blamed for jets vanishing off radars in Europe

'Unprecedented': 13 aircraft mysteriously disappear from radars in heart of Europe

Britiske og østerrikske aviser var raskt ute med stoff om denne elektroniske krigføringen, og alle spor peker i retning av NATO. Her fra The Guardian 13. juni 2014:

Military blamed after planes vanish from Europe air-traffic control screens

Slovak authorities claim electronic warfare exercise caused dozens of planes to briefly disappear from air-traffic control radar

Dozens of aircraft briefly vanished from air-traffic control radars in Austria, Germany, the Czech Republic and Slovakia over the last two weeks in incidents that Slovak authorities blamed on military electronic warfare exercises.

...

"The disappearance of objects on radar screens was connected with a planned military exercise which took place in various parts of Europe ... whose goal was the interruption of radio communication frequencies," the Slovak air traffic services said.

...

"Immediately after the identification of the problem with the displays, the side organising the exercises was contacted and the exercise was stopped."

It did not identify the military force, but Austrian media said it was Nato. Nato declined to comment.

A spokesman for German air-traffic control said: "Planes disappeared from screens for a matter of seconds, here and there. The outages were sporadic and not grave.

"It must have been an external source of disruption. We are trying to identify the cause."

There has been a growing focus on the tracking of passenger aircraft since the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 in March.

...

Søket etter flight MH370 i det sørlige Indiahavet øst for Australia ble gjort for å rette fokus vekk fra hva som egentlig hadde skjedd

Dette har jeg såvidt nevnt tidligere. Nå tar jeg det et skritt videre. Blant de første innleggene jeg skrev i tråden Noen sitater og litt til når det faller seg slik begynte jeg en grundig gjennomgang av hva presidentfamilien Bush i USA egentlig dreier seg om. Dessverre rakk jeg aldri fullføre saken slik jeg hadde tenkt, men de som klikker på linken og leser seg gjennom disse innleggene, vil finne stoff om Zapata Corporation.

Zapata Corporation har skiftet navn til Harbinger Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbinger_Group

Harbinger Group Inc. (NYSE:HRG), formerly Zapata Corporation, is a holding company based in Rochester, New York, and originating from an oil company started by a group including the former United States president George H. W. Bush. Various writers have alleged links between the company and the United States Central Intelligence Agency. In 2009, it was renamed the Harbinger Group Inc.

Nå tar vi en titt på et av selskapene Harbinger Group har store eierandeler i, satellittkommunikasjonselskapet Inmarsat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbinger_Capital

Harbinger has owned large stakes in The New York Times Company, Cleveland-Cliffs, and 28% stock ownership of satellite communications company Inmarsat.

Inmarsat er det samme selskapet som antydet at de hadde funnet mulige rester etter flight MH370 i havet utenfor Australia

http://ctcantina.com/showthread.php?tid=20

The scenario outlined by Chang and Tatum explains how MH370 was hijacked, and why all the major players are covering up the truth. But it does not explain who remote-hijacked MH370 and why.

One Clue: Tatum provides evidence for the possible involvement of the CIA-based Bush crime family in the cover-up. The fake satellite trail to the remote and dangerous Southern Indian Ocean, a gigantic red herring, was fabricated by INMARSAT – whose largest owner, Harbinger Capital, is the new name for George H.W. Bush's notorious Zapata Corporation.

http://www.dn.no/nyheter/2014/03/24/-det-savnede-flyet-styrtet-i-indiahavet

Ikke funnet

Boeing 777-maskinen skal ikke være funnet, men nye analyser utført av britiske etterforskere viser at det fløy langs den sørlige korridoren i Indiahavet, langt fra flyets opprinnelige rute.

– Inmarsat, det britiske selskapet som ga satellittdataene som indikerte den nordlige og den sørlige korridoren, har gjort nye beregninger. Med en type analyse som aldri tidligere har vært brukt i slike etterforskninger, har de kastet nytt lys over MH370s flykorridor. Flyets siste posisjon var midt i Indiahavet, vest for Perth, sa statsministeren.

Et kinesisk og et australsk fly gjorde mandag morgen nye funn under søket etter det savnede flyet, men Razak sa ingenting om de nye funnene.

[Amatør1]

Zapata Corporation har skiftet navn til Harbinger Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbinger_Group

Harbinger Group Inc. (NYSE:HRG), formerly Zapata Corporation, is a holding company based in Rochester, New York, and originating from an oil company started by a group including the former United States president George H. W. Bush. Various writers have alleged links between the company and the United States Central Intelligence Agency. In 2009, it was renamed the Harbinger Group Inc.

harbinger

1. a person who goes ahead and makes known the approach of another; herald.
2. anything that foreshadows a future event; omen; sign: Frost is a harbinger of winter.
3. a person sent in advance of troops, a royal train, etc., to provide or secure lodgings and other accommodations.

[Jostemikk]

Zapata Corporation har skiftet navn til Harbinger Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbinger_Group

Harbinger Group Inc. (NYSE:HRG), formerly Zapata Corporation, is a holding company based in Rochester, New York, and originating from an oil company started by a group including the former United States president George H. W. Bush. Various writers have alleged links between the company and the United States Central Intelligence Agency. In 2009, it was renamed the Harbinger Group Inc.

harbinger

1. a person who goes ahead and makes known the approach of another; herald.
2. anything that foreshadows a future event; omen; sign: Frost is a harbinger of winter.
3. a person sent in advance of troops, a royal train, etc., to provide or secure lodgings and other accommodations.

Interessant, og noe jeg ikke var klar over. Det nye firmanavnet var med andre ord velvalgt.