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Ray McGovern

Raymond L. McGovern – 27-year CIA veteran. Former Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates (NIE), the consensus reports of all U.S. intelligence agencies. According to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, NIE's "are the Intelligence Community's most authoritative written judgments on national security issues." Responsible for preparing and presenting the President' Daily Brief (PDB) to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush and for providing intelligence briefing to their Vice Presidents, Secretaries of State, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials.  Upon retirement in 1990, McGovern was awarded the CIA's Intelligence Commendation Medallion and received a letter of appreciation from then-President George H. W. Bush. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer.

Endorsement of 9/11 and American Empire (Vol I) – Intellectuals Speak Out:

"It has long been clear that the Bush-Cheney administration cynically exploited the attacks of 9/11 to promote its imperial designs. But the present volume confronts us with compelling evidence for an even more disturbing conclusion: that the 9/11 attacks were themselves orchestrated by this administration precisely so they could be thus exploited. If this is true, it is not merely the case, as the Downing Street memos show, that the stated reason for attacking Iraq was a lie. It is also the case that the whole 'war on terror' was based on a prior deception. This book hence confronts the American people---indeed the people of the world as a whole---with an issue second to none in importance and urgency. I give this book, which in no way can be dismissed as the ravings of 'paranoid conspiracy theorists,' my highest possible recommendation."

"I think at simplest terms, there's a cover-up.  The 9/11 report is a joke.  The question is: What's being covered up?  Is it gross malfeasance, gross negligence, misfeasance? ... Now there are a whole bunch of unanswered questions.  And the reason they're unanswered is because this administration will not answer the questions. ... I just want to reassert, what Scott [Ritter, former Major in the U.S. Marines Corps, former Chief Weapons Inspector for the United Nations Special Commission in Iraq] said and this is the bottom line for me, just as Hitler in 1933 cynically exploited the burning of the parliament building, the Reichstag, this is exactly what our President did in exploiting 9/11.  The cynical way in which he played on our trauma, used it to justify attacking, making a war of aggression on a country that he knew had nothing to do with 9/11.  That suffices for me, I think Scott is exactly right, that's certainly an impeachable offense."

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William Christison

William Christison (1928 - 2010) – Joined the CIA in 1950, and served on the analysis side of the Agency for 28 years. From the early 1970s he served as National Intelligence Officer (principal adviser to the Director of Central Intelligence on certain areas) for, at various times, Southeast Asia, South Asia and Africa. Before he retired in 1979 he was Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis, a 250-person unit responsible for political analysis of every country and region in the world.

Endorsement of Debunking 9/11 Debunking 3/30/07:

"David Ray Griffin's Debunking 9/11 Debunking is a superb compendium of the strong body of evidence showing the official U.S. Government story of what happened on September 11, 2001 to be almost certainly a monstrous series of lies.  Tragically, the entire course of U.S. foreign and domestic policies since that date has grown out of these almost certain falsehoods.  This single book could (and should) provide the basis for the United Nations, International Court of Justice, or some specially constituted global body (independent of the U.S.) to investigate with highest priority, and publicly report its findings about, the charge that unknown elements within the U.S. Government, and possibly some individuals elsewhere closely allied to the U.S., caused or contributed to causing the events of September 11 to happen."

Essay Stop Belittling the Theories About September 11  8/14/06:

"I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. ...

An airliner almost certainly did not hit The Pentagon. Hard physical evidence supports this conclusion; among other things, the hole in the Pentagon was considerably smaller than an airliner would create. ...

The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center almost certainly did not collapse and fall to earth because hijacked aircraft hit them.  A plane did not hit Building 7 of the Center, which also collapsed.  All three were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings before 9/11. A substantial volume of evidence shows that typical residues and byproducts from such demolition charges were present in the three buildings after they collapsed. The quality of the research done on this subject is quite impressive."

Article 9/7/06:

"David Griffin believes this all was totally an inside job - I've got to say I think that it was too. ... I have since decided that....at least some elements in this US government had contributed in some way or other to causing 9/11 to happen or at least allowing it to happen. ... The reason that the two towers in New York actually collapsed and fell all the way to the ground was controlled explosions rather than just being hit by two airplanes. ... All of the characteristics of these demolitions show that they almost had to have been controlled explosions."

Member: Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven  Association Statement:

"We have found solid scientific grounds on which to question the interpretation put upon the events of September 11, 2001 by the Office of the President of the United States of America and subsequently propagated by the major media of western nations."

Audio interview 9/29/06:

"We very seriously need an entirely new very high level and truly independent investigation of the events of 9/11.  I think you almost have to look at the 9/11 Commission Report as a joke and not a serious piece of analysis at all.  It gave the administration what it wanted to support their official story on what happened on the date of September 11 and that's all they cared about. ... It's a monstrous crime. Absolutely a monstrous crime."

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Melvin A. Goodman

Melvin A. Goodman, PhD – Former Division Chief and Senior Analyst at the Office of Soviet Affairs, CIA,1966 - 1990.  Senior Analyst at the Bureau of Intelligence and Research, State Department, 1974 - 1976. Professor of International Security at the National War College 1986 - 2004.  42-year Federal government career, primarily with the CIA, Department of Defense and State Department.  Currently Senior Fellow at the Center for International Policy and Adjunct Professor of Government at Johns Hopkins University. Author and co-author of several books on international relations, including: Wars of Eduard Shevardnadze, Gorbachev's Retreat: The Third World, and Bush League Diplomacy: How the Neoconservatives Are Putting the World at Risk.

Video of Congressional briefing testimony 7/22/05:

"This is an important examination of a 9/11 Commission that was an historic opportunity that was missed and a 9/11 Commission study that is terribly flawed. ...

I think the 9/11 Commission has taught me that we need to be extremely rigorous and extremely tenacious in pursuing that truth, because there is a corporate mentality in this country that is working against allowing the truth to surface, even in tragedies, such as the 9/11 tragedy. ...

I want to talk about the Commission itself, about the flawed process of the Commission and finally about the conflict of interest within the Commission that is extremely important to understand the failure of the Commission. ...

The most important individual to me, other than a commissioner, was the staff director, Philip Zelikow. His conflicts of interest were so great that you do have to wonder why this individual was appointed to head this important staff of over 80 people.

He had very strong ties to the George Herbert Walker Bush Administration. Very strong personal and political and policy ties to Condoleeza Rice.

More importantly, Philip Zelikow was running the case study program at Harvard, which took millions of dollars from the Central Intelligence Agency over a ten year period to write case studies on the CIA to establish a record that was essentially untrue with the facts about the work of the CIA. ...

The final report is ultimately a coverup.  I don't know how else to describe the final report."

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Michael Scheuer

Michael Scheuer, PhD – Former Chief of the CIA's bin Laden unit (aka Alec Station), the Osama bin Laden tracking unit at the Counterterrorism Center 1996 - 1999. Special Adviser to the Chief of the bin Laden unit, September 2001 to November 2004. 22-year CIA career. Currently author, political analyst and media commentator. Adjunct Professor of Security Studies, Georgetown University. Former Senior Fellow at the Jamestown Foundation, writing regularly for its online publication Global Terrorism Analysis. Author of Through Our Enemies' Eyes: Osama bin Laden, Radical Islam, and the Future of America (2002, originally published anonymously), Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror (2004, originally published anonymously), Marching Toward Hell: America and Islam After Iraq (2008)

Interviewed by Judge Andrew Napolitano on Fox News 10/9/10:

Michael Scheuer:  What the Colonel (Anthony Shaffer, former Chief of the Army's Controlled HUMINT (Human Intelligence) Program) is absolutely correct on is that the 9/11 Commission and the Commissioners themselves were just there to whitewash it.  They were blessed with the most brilliant staff you could imagine.  But as Commissioners they were clearly there to not let the American people know what happened before 9/11.

Judge Napolitano:  Was the 9/11 Commission report a whitewash as Colonel Shaffer says and as one of the 9/11 Commissioners to whom he spoke, and you heard him talk about this person, pretty much agrees?

Michael Scheuer:  It was a whitewash and a lie from top to bottom, Judge

Judge Napolitano:  What do you mean "a lie from top to bottom", Michael?

Michael Scheuer:  Well in my own case, sir, the Agency officers who were involved before 9/11 in chasing bin Laden decided that we could not simply testify under oath without providing supporting documentation. And so all of us, both testified under oath.  I did, I think three times and provided documents.  I provided myself, let me speak just for myself here, Judge,  I provided a three inch binder with over 400 pages of documentation -- not my notes, but official government documents about the failures before 9/11.  I never heard one word back from Zelikow.  And I approached Zelikow. He asked me for the notebook.  I told him it was available. He asked me for it and he never got in touch to talk about one page of material.

Judge Napolitano:  You obviously know what was in the loose leaf and I know you read the 9/11 Commission report.  Did anything from the loose leaf make its way into the final report?

Michael Scheuer:  ... Not the important stuff.  The important stuff did not. ...

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Robert David Steele

Robert David Steele (Vivas) – U.S. Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer for twenty years.  Also served in the CIA as a clandestine case officer.  Second-ranking civilian (GS-14) in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence from 1988 - 1992 and a member of the Adjunct Faculty of Marine Corps University.   25-year U.S. military and intelligence career.  Currently Founder and CEO of OSS.net and a proponent of Open Source Intelligence.

Author of On Intelligence: Spies and Secrecy in an Open World (2000, Foreword by Senator David Boren (D-OK)),  The New Craft of Intelligence: Personal, Public, & Political (2002, Foreword by Senator Pat Roberts (R-KS)),  Information Operations: All Information, All Languages, All the Time (2005, Foreword by Congressman Rob Simmons (R-CT-02)), The Smart Nation Act: Public Intelligence in the Public Interest (2006). Co-author of NATO Open Source Intelligence Handbook (2001).  Co-editor of NATO Open Source Intelligence Reader (2002).  Contributing editor of Peacekeeping Intelligence: Emerging Concepts for the Future (2003, Foreword by Dame Pauline Neville-Jones, UK).

Essay 10/7/06: Review of Webster Tarpley's 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in the USA:

"I am forced to conclude that 9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war, and I am forced to conclude that there is sufficient evidence to indict (not necessarily convict) Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and others of a neo-conservative neo-Nazi coup d'etat and kick-off of the clash of civilizations. ...

This is, without question, the most important modern reference on state-sponsored terrorism, and also the reference that most pointedly suggests that select rogue elements within the US Government, most likely led by Dick Cheney with the assistance of George Tenet, Buzzy Kronguard, and others close to the Wall Street gangs, are the most guilty of state-sponsored terrorism....

I sit here, a 54-year old, liberally educated, two graduate degrees, war college, a life overseas, 150 IQ or so, the number #1 Amazon reviewer for non-fiction, a former Marine Corps infantry officer, a former CIA clandestine case officer, founder of the Marine Corps Intelligence Center, and I have to tell anyone who cares to read this: I believe it. I believe it enough to want a full investigation that passes the smell test of the 9/11 families as well as objective outside observers."

Article 10/27/06:

"While Steele stopped short of saying 9/11 was a complete inside job, he agreed that the evidence points to the overwhelming complicity of the Bush administration.

The U.S. government did not properly investigate this and there are more rocks to be turned over," said Steele adding, "I'm absolutely certain that WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition and that as far as I'm concerned means that this case has not been properly investigated.  There's no way that building could have come down without controlled demolition."

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Robert Baer

Robert Baer – Former CIA Case Officer, Specialist in the Middle East, Directorate of Operations.  Awarded Career Intelligence Medal.  21-year CIA veteran.  Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh wrote that Baer "was considered perhaps the best on-the-ground field officer in the Middle East."  Best-selling author, screenwriter, and actor.  Academy Award-winning Syriana was based on Baer's memoir See No Evil.  Writer and on-camera presenter for Emmy Award-nominated documentary Cult of the Suicide Bomber.  Author of two nonfiction books about CIA operations, See No Evil (2002) and Sleeping with the Devil (2004) and the novel Blow the House Down (2007).

Article FBI Documents Contradict 9/11 Commission Report 2/28/08:

"There are enough discrepancies and unanswered questions in the 9/11 Commission Report that under a friendly administration, the 9/11 investigation should be re-opened."

Audio Interview Thom Hartmann Show 6/9/06:

Thom Hartmann:  Are you of the opinion there was an aspect of 'inside job' to 9/11 within the U.S. government?

Robert Baer:  There is that possibility, the evidence points at it.

Thom Hartmann:  And why is it not being investigated?

Robert Baer:  Why isn't the WMD story being investigated?  Why hasn't anybody been held accountable for 9/11?  We held people accountable after Pearl Harbor.  Why has there been no change in command?  Why have there been no political repercussions?  Why has there been no -- any sort of exposure on this?  It really makes you wonder."

Essay The Guardian 1/12/02:

"Did bin Laden act alone, through his own al-Qaida network, in launching the attacks?  About that I'm far more certain and emphatic: no."

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Milton Bearden

Milton Bearden – Former CIA Station Chief in Pakistan, Germany, Nigeria, and Sudan.  Served In Pakistan from 1986 to 1989, where he played a role in training the mujahedeen in Afghanistan.  Later served as the director of the Soviet/East European Division during the collapse of the Soviet Union.  He received the Distinguished Intelligence Medal, the Intelligence Medal of Merit, and the Donovan Award for his CIA service.  He received the Federal Cross of Merit from the President of the German Federal Republic for his service in Germany at the end of the Cold War.  30-year CIA career.  Currently author and commentator on intelligence services and terrorism.

Interview with Dan Rather, CBS News 9/12/01:

Dan Rather:  If the President should come to you and ask you, "What do you think I should do?", what would you tell him?

Milton Bearden:  ... Focus on finding out who did this thing yesterday and then dealing with it in a way that will not bring yet more troubles to us.   

Dan Rather:  Well, it's pretty obvious that a judgment is coalescing around the President that it was Osama bin Laden.

Milton Bearden:  I know we live in a country where we're often told that the first thing that comes to your mind, put it down.  Put the little mark in there.  I feel slightly uncomfortable because I spent so many years wondering how the myth of Osama bin Laden got started.  We have the Osama bin Laden who was the great war hero in Afghanistan.  We have Osama bin Laden who was trained by CIA, funded and supported by CIA during three years of war.  I was there at the same time bin Laden was there.  He was not the great warrior that went and fought the Soviet Union to a standstill.  The CIA had nothing to do with him.  I think that that mythological Osama bin Laden, never mind that he's an absolutely evil man, but the mythological Osama bin Laden causes me trouble.  And I think maybe there is another answer out there.  I'm not certain that I know what it is.

Dan Rather:  Milt Bearden again, you're one of our most experienced people with long experience in Afghanistan.  What does your gut tell you about who's responsible about these attacks this week?   

Milton Bearden:  My gut tells me we don't know the answer yet.  My gut tells me that I'm not going to go with the first answer that comes to mind, but there's quite possible something else out there.  Experts will jump on you and say it's Osama bin Laden's MO.  He's the only one that is capable of this type of coordinated attack.  My answer to them is he's the only one you know that's capable of this kind of attack.  This was a tremendously sophisticated operation against the United States; more sophisticated than anybody would ever have ascribed to Osama bin Laden.  I think we need to do a little homework.  We need to appoint a Team B that looks for somebody else.  I'm just not convinced it was bin Laden. ...

Dan Rather:  There's no question in my mind that you're skeptical that Osama bin Laden, aided and abetted, at least protected by the Taliban, should be the principal target of some large military operation.  If I'm wrong about that, tell me now.

Milton Bearden:  No, no, no, you're not wrong, Dan.  I'm saying is -- Let me step back one step on this and say, Osama bin Laden is an evil man and he's a component of the terrorism that we're deal with across the board.  All I'm saying is is that I think Osama bin Laden has become the metaphor for the entire problem of terrorism involving Muslims with perceived grievances against the United States.  And  I think it would be wrong to say this is a one size fits all operation and to go after bin Laden because an operation as sophisticated as carried out yesterday was an operation that was concealed from us for months, probably before it took place.  It happened without essentially a hitch, except for one aircraft.  And there's no reason to believe these same people weren't capable of covering their tracks somehow on the way out.  Now I would go so far as to say that this group who was responsible for that, if they didn't have an Osama bin Laden out there, they'd invent one because he's a terrific diversion for the rest of the world.  Could I be wrong?  Of course I could be wrong.  It could be Osama bin Laden."

PBS Interview 1999. Rebroadcast on 9/13/01:  Regarding Osama bin Laden:

Milton Bearden:  We've blamed him for every horrible event in our history except the grassy knoll.  And now we have, with I'm not sure what evidence, linked him to all of the terrorist acts of this year -- of this decade, perhaps. ...

Interviewer:  You're not saying Osama bin Laden is not a terrorist or is not an enemy of the United States?

Milton Bearden:  Osama bin Laden has chosen to make himself an enemy of the United States. He has issued these disputable fatwahs, these Islamic proclamations, to kill all ... Americans and Jews. Therefore, he's made himself a component, and I think that the United States is absolutely justified in taking out Osama bin Laden.  But to oversimplify it by linking him to every known terrorist act in the last decade is an insult to most Americans.  And it certainly doesn't encourage our allies in this to take us very seriously.  Osama bin Laden is a legitimate target for the United States, period.  But then, to completely reinforce it with all of these insupportable accusations, I think is a disservice and an oversimplification. ...

Interviewer:  So, really what we're looking at is some fact but a lot of fiction.

Milton Bearden:  There's a lot of fiction in there.  But we like that.  It's the whole Osama bin Laden mythology.  It's almost part entertainment.  We don't have a national enemy.  We haven't had a national enemy since the evil empire slipped beneath the waves in 1991.  And I think we kind of like this way.  We like this whole international terrorist thing oddly enough at a time when it probably is changing its character dramatically."

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Sibel D. Edmonds

Sibel D. Edmonds – Witness before the 9/11 Commission.  Former Language Translation Specialist, performing translations for counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations, FBI.

Letter to 9/11 Commission 8/1/04:

"I find your report seriously flawed in its failure to address serious intelligence issues that I am aware of, which have been confirmed, and which as a witness to the commission, I made you aware of. Thus, I must assume that other serious issues that I am not aware of were in the same manner omitted from your report. These omissions cast doubt on the validity of your report and therefore on its conclusions and recommendations."

Article 7/22/04:

"My translations of the 9/11 intercepts included [terrorist] money laundering, detailed and date-specific information ... if they were to do real investigations, we would see several significant high-level criminal prosecutions in this country [the US] ... and believe me, they will do everything to cover this up."

Interview The Alex Jones Show 7/24/06:

Alex Jones:  I'm asking you-- I mean, clearly, where does the evidence point on 9/11?

Sibel Edmonds:  Well, that is the whole point, Alex. They are not letting out all the evidence. ...

Alex Jones:  But even if they cut evidence out of reports, we have the clear evidence of Thermite in the buildings, we have clear evidence of C.I.A. insider trading, NORAD standing down, U.S. troops already massed in central Asia, Bush having the launch order two days before to attack Afghanistan.  I mean, Sibel, when you put all that together-- I'm asking you personally-- where does all the evidence point?

Sibel Edmonds:  The evidence points to a massive government cover-up. ...

Alex Jones:  Sibel, what I'm asking you is, in your gut, do you think 9/11 to some extent is an inside job?

Sibel Edmonds:  Well, again, as I am telling you, I'm trying to tell you is, I have all the evidence of cover-up.  Now, who were the people behind this?  And why?  And how?  We don't have a definite answer.  As I said, we can come up with theories, we can come up with speculation, but they do not--I mean, in my opinion, they are not facts.  But also what government has been giving us, again, I don't consider those a total--you know-- total truth or fact either.

Alex Jones:  Would you be surprised?

Sibel Edmonds:  No. I wouldn't.

Alex Jones:  You wouldn't be surprised if elements or criminal elements or private contractors were involved in 9/11?

Sibel Edmonds:  No, I wouldn't be surprised.

Alex Jones:  So you wouldn't be surprised like many others, because of the evidence and the cover-up you've seen, if 9/11 was an inside job?

Sibel Edmonds:  At this point, I'd have to say no, I wouldn't be surprised.

Alex Jones:  Do you think the evidence is leaning towards that?

Sibel Edmonds:  Well, again, considering the level of cover-up and the length at which they have gone to gag people and prevent information-- this information from coming out, I would say yes.

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Bogdan Dzakovic

Bogdan Dzakovic – Witness before the 9/11 Commission.  14-year Counter-terrorism expert in the Security Division of the Federal Aviation Administration. Team Leader of the FAA's Red (Terrorism) Team, which conducted undercover tests on airport security through simulated terrorist attacks.  Former Team Leader in the Federal Air Marshal program.  Former Coast Guard officer.

Video transcript 8/21/05:

Regarding the 9/11 Commission: "The best I could say about it is they really botched the job by not really going into the real failures. ... At worst, I think the 9/11 Commission Report is treasonous."

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Steve Elson

Steve Elson – Former Special Agent with the U.S. Navy, DEA and FAA. Specialist in Counterterrorism, Intelligence, and Security. Twenty-two years military experience, primarily in Naval Special Warfare and nine years Federal service with the FAA and DEA. Retired Navy SEAL.

Article 8/3/04:

"A former Navy SEAL and Drug Enforcement Administration rep in South America, Elson is not a timid man. "I'd give the commission a 'D' for investigating the FAA," he declares. ... "The commissioners knew a lot more than they included in the 9/11 report," he says. "They sold out."

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Raymond A. Ciccolilli

Raymond A. Ciccolilli – Former U.S. Sky Marshal and Senior U.S. Customs Inspector.  Retired from U.S. Customs and Border Protection after 33 years.  Worked on almost every enforcement team within U.S. Customs.

Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"I am ashamed that I spent so many years defending the borders only to now know that we are now living the most corrupt time in all of U.S. history.  I had some questions in my mind about all the circumstances involved in 9/11 but it wasn't until I watched this DVD did all the pieces of the puzzle fall into place.  I guess, I, too, was living in denial.  No one wants to believe this, but having witnessed two jet plane crashes in the past, and watching the Trade Center buildings collapse, I know that the facts do not add up.

After viewing several other documentaries on 9/11, I am now convinced these building were deliberately destroyed.  Someone has to be held accountable."

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William G. Weaver

William G. Weaver, JD, PhD  – Former U.S. Army Signals Intelligence officer.  Currently Director of Academic Programs, Institute for Policy and Economic Development, University of Texas, El Paso, specializing in executive branch secrecy policy, governmental abuse, and law and bureaucracy.  Author, co-author, and editor of several books on law and political theory, including: Presidential Secrecy and the Law (2007), New Perspectives on American Law: An Introduction to Private Law in Politics and Society (1997), Political Science and Feminism: Integration or Transformation? (1997), Pragmatism in Law and Society (1991).

Essay 9/5/06:

Regarding the 9/11 Commission - "In their responsibility to report all the facts: They either refused to interview all relevant experts and witnesses, or, they censored the reports provided to them by those with direct and first-hand information. Both these acts were selective and intentional. Contrary to their pledge to establish accountability: They refused to hold anyone accountable and lamely justified it by saying, "We don't want to point a finger at anyone."

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Max Cleland

Senator Max Cleland – Former member of the 9/11 Commission, resigned in December 2003.  Currently serves on the board of directors of the Export-Import Bank of the United States.  U.S. Senator from Georgia 1997 - 2002.  Secretary of State of Georgia 1982 - 1996.  Administrator of the U.S. Veterans Administration 1977 - 1981.  Former Captain, U.S. Army.  Awarded Silver Star and Bronze Star for bravery in Viet Nam.  Triple amputee from war injuries.

Article New York Times 10/26/03:

As each day goes by, we learn that this government knew a whole lot more about these terrorists before Sept. 11 than it has ever admitted."

Article Boston Globe 11/13/03:

"If this decision stands [to limit access to White House documents], I, as a member of the [9/11] Commission, cannot look any American in the eye, especially family members of victims, and say the Commission had full access. This investigation is now compromised. . . . This is `The Gong Show'; this isn't protection of national security."

Article Salon 11/21/03:

Regarding the 9/11 Commission "It is a national scandal."

Resigned from the 9/11 Commission, 12/03, after having served on it for 12 months.  Former Senator Bob Kerrey from Nebraska was selected to replace him.  The 9/11 Commission Report was issued 7 months later.

Interview Democracy Now 3/23/04:

"One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up."

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Bob Kerrey

Senator Bob Kerrey – Appointed to the 9/11 Commission upon the resignation of Senator Max Cleland in December 2003 and served on the Commission during the final seven months of its 19-month existence.  U.S. Senator from Nebraska 1989 - 2000.  Governor of Nebraska 1983 - 1987.  Unsuccessful candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1992.  Former member, Navy SEAL special forces 1966 - 1969, serving in Vietnam.  Combat injuries resulted in the amputation of the lower part of one leg.  Awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for "conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life" for his service in Vietnam.  Currently, President, New School University 2001 - present.

Statement of Richard Greene, Air America Radio host 3/2/08:

"Now I went to Senator Kerrey and I said. "Senator --" because he's associated with Air America -- I said, "Senator, are you still believing that there wasn't enough time and enough money to do an investigation?"

And he said, "Absolutely."

I said, "Are you calling for a new investigation?"

And he said, "No, Richard, I am going further than that." He said, "I am calling for a permanent 9/11 Commission."

And I said, "Senator, is this public? Can I announce that on the air? And are you willing to come on the air and say that?"

And he said, "Yes."

Newsweek article by Philip Shenon 3/23/09:

"The [9/11] commission appears to have ignored obvious clues throughout 2003 and 2004 that its account of the 9/11 plot and Al Qaeda's history relied heavily on information obtained from detainees who had been subjected to torture, or something not far from it. ...

That has troubling implications for the credibility of the commission's final report. In intelligence circles, testimony obtained through torture is typically discredited; research shows that people will say anything under threat of intense physical pain.

And yet it is a distinct possibility that Al Qaeda suspects who were the exclusive source of information for long passages of the commission's report may have been subjected to "enhanced" interrogation techniques, or at least threatened with them, because of the 9/11 Commission. ...

Footnotes in the panel's report indicate when information was obtained from detainees interrogated by the CIA. An analysis by NBC News found that more than a quarter of the report's footnotes—441 of some 1,700—referred to detainees who were subjected to the CIA's "enhanced" interrogation program, including the trio who were waterboarded.

Commission members note that they repeatedly pressed the Bush White House and CIA for direct access to the detainees, but the administration refused. So the commission forwarded questions to the CIA, whose interrogators posed them on the panel's behalf. ...

Former senator Bob Kerrey of Nebraska, a Democrat on the commission, told me last year he had long feared that the investigation depended too heavily on the accounts of Al Qaeda detainees who were physically coerced into talking. While he thought the commission's larger narrative about the September 11 attacks held up, "there's reason now to suspect that we may have gotten some of the details wrong" about the 9/11 plot and about Al Qaeda.

Kerrey said it might take "a permanent 9/11 commission" to end the remaining mysteries of September 11."

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Terrell E. Arnold

Terrell (Terry) E. Arnold, MA – Former Deputy Director, Office of Counter-Terrorism and Emergency Planning, U.S. State Department. Former Chairman, Department of International Studies, National War College. Graduate of the National War College. Retired Senior Foreign Service Officer of the U.S. Department of State. He has served as a security and crisis management consultant for several Fortune 500 companies. He also served as a crisis management consultant for several Federal agencies, including The State Department, the Department of Defense, the U.S. Customs Service and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. U.S. Navy veteran of World War II and Korean conflict. Author, co-author, and editor of Fighting Back: Winning the War Against Terrorism (1986), Beyond the Iran-Contra Crisis : The Shape of U. S. Anti-Terrorism Policy in the Post-Reagan Era (1988), The Violence Formula: Why People Lend Sympathy and Support to Terrorism (1990), Think About Terrorism: The New Warfare (1991), A World Less Safe: Essays on Conflict in the 21st Century (2005).

Essay It is Vital to Move Beyond 911  7/3/07:

"More than five years after the fact, Washington leadership keeps the American people fixated on the events of 9/11. They have brought us no closer than we were on September 12, 2001 to resolving how it was executed and by what enemy. They tell us repeatedly that it was the work of al Qaida, but they have yet to show us the proofs. They told us the official version of what happened that day, but their story is laced with contradictions, and the facts visible on the ground at the time belie much of the official account. Our leadership gave us a Sopranos blank screen ending to a terrible tragedy, while working below the radar to avoid our established laws and slowly to destroy our democratic institutions. Every American must look carefully at the pattern of decay that began with 9/11. ...

As an alleged post 9/11 defense, the War on Terrorism is a gigantic fraud. ...

We cannot let a single criminal act, the facts and perpetrators of which are still obscure, destroy our society. With all respect due to those who lost family and friends in the attacks of 9/11, there is no evident search for justice, truth or our future safety in the US government actions outlined in this paper. Instead we are watching the most brutal power games of our times that benefit the few at the expense of the rest of us."

Interview Leading Counter-Terrorism Expert and Former High-Level Official Slams War on Terror and Questions 9/11  Washington's Blog 2/3/09:

Question: What facts or observations make you doubt that the official government story does not fully explain how 9/11 was carried out?

Terry Arnold: The nature of events in New York. The buildings falling down. I'm not satisfied by the notion that planes hitting buildings constructed as these would have caused them to collapse. The last building to fall was not even attacked.

Question: Now let's address the question of who carried out the attacks. You write, "They tell us repeatedly that it [9/11] was the work of al Qaida, but they have yet to show us the proofs."

As a counter-terrorism expert, what sort of proofs would you expect the government to show if al Qaeda had carried out the 9/11 attacks - at least without the help of any state?

Terry Arnold: There is a lot of work in getting sixteen people ready to commit voluntary and simultaneous suicide. The case has not been made. The official story is not persuasive because it does not address the real issues of complexity.

Question: You also say, "They told us the official version of what happened that day, but their story is laced with contradictions, and the facts visible on the ground at the time belie much of the official account."

What contradictions do you see with the official version of 9/11? And what facts belie the official account?

Terry Arnold: The sheer mechanics of the event. The chances of two buildings of that height and structure merely collapsing in their own footprint are extremely slim.

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Angelo M. Codevilla

Angelo M. Codevilla, PhD – Former U.S. State Department Foreign Service Officer specializing in U.S. intelligence operations in Western Europe. Member of President-Elect Ronald Reagan's Transition Team within the State Department and principal author of the team's report on intelligence. Former Staff Member, U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee dealing with oversight of the intelligence services 1977 - 1985. Former U.S. Naval Officer. Currently Vice Chairman of the U.S. Army War College Board of Visitors.

Professor of International Relations, Boston University 1995 - present. Fellow of the Claremont Institute. Former academic appointments include Professorial Lecturer at Georgetown University; Senior Research Fellow for the Hoover Institution at Stanford University; Assistant Professor, Grove City College; and Assistant Professor, North Dakota State College.

Senior Editor of The American Spectator. Author of Advice to War Presidents: A Remedial Course in Statecraft (2009), No Victory, No Peace (2004), The Character of Nations: How Politics Makes and Breaks Prosperity, Family, and Civility (2000), Between The Alps and a Hard Place (2000), The Prince, by Niccolo Machiavelli, translated by Angelo Codevilla (1995), Informing Statecraft: Intelligence for a New Century (1992), While Others Build: The Commonsense Approach to the Strategic Defence Initiative (1988), Modern France (1974). Co-author of War: Ends and Means (1988), Arms Control Delusion (1987).

Essay in The American Spectator  3/13/09:

"Seven years after Osama bin Laden's last verifiable appearance among the living, there is more evidence for Elvis's presence among us than for his. Hence there is reason to ask whether the paradigm of Osama bin Laden as terrorism's deus ex machina and of al Qaeda as the prototype of terrorism may be an artifact of our Best and Brightest's imagination, and whether investment in this paradigm has kept our national security establishment from thinking seriously about our troubles' sources. So let us take a fresh look at the fundamentals.

Negative evidence alone compels the conclusion that Osama is long since dead. Since October 2001, when Al Jazeera's Tayseer Alouni interviewed him, no reputable person reports having seen him—not even after multiple-blind journeys through intermediaries. The audio and video tapes alleged to be Osama's never convinced impartial observers. The guy just does not look like Osama. Some videos show him with a Semitic aquiline nose, while others show him with a shorter, broader one. Next to that, differences between colors and styles of beard are small stuff.

Nor does the tapes' Osama sound like Osama. In 2007 Switzerland's Dalle Molle Institute for Artificial Intelligence, which does computer voice recognition for bank security, compared the voices on 15 undisputed recordings of Osama with the voices on 15 subsequent ones attributed to Osama, to which they added two by native Arab speakers who had trained to imitate him and were reading his writings. All of the purported Osama recordings (with one falling into a gray area) differed clearly from one another as well as from the genuine ones. By contrast, the CIA found all the recordings authentic. It is hard to imagine what methodology might support this conclusion.

Also in 2007, Professor Bruce Lawrence, who heads Duke University's religious studies program, argued in a book on Osama's messages that their increasingly secular language is inconsistent with Osama's Wahhabism. Lawrence noted as well that the Osama figure in the December 2001 video, which many have taken as his assumption of responsibility for 9/11, wears golden rings—decidedly un-Wahhabi. He also writes with the wrong hand. Lawrence concluded that the messages are fakes, and not very good ones. The CIA has judged them all good.

Above all, whereas Elvis impersonators at least sing the King's signature song, "You ain't nutin' but a hound dawg," the words on the Osama tapes differ substantively from what the real Osama used to say—especially about the most important matter. On September 16, 2001, on Al Jazeera, Osama said of 9/11: "I stress that I have not carried out this act, which appears to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation." Again, in the October interview with Tayseer Alouni, he limited his connection with 9/11 to ideology: "If they mean, or if you mean, that there is a link as a result of our incitement, then it is true. We incite..." But in the so-called "confession video" that the CIA found in December, the Osama figure acts like the chief conspirator. The fact that the video had been made for no self-evident purpose except perhaps to be found by the Americans should have raised suspicion. Its substance, the celebratory affirmation of a responsibility for 9/11 that Osama had denied, should also have weighed against the video's authenticity. Why would he wait to indict himself until after U.S. forces and allies had secured Afghanistan? But the CIA acted as if it had caught Osama red-handed."

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Marcus Raskin

Marcus Raskin, JD – Former member of the special staff of the National Security Council in President Kennedy's Administration.  Senior Fellow and Professor of Policy Studies, George Washington University.  Co-founder and Senior Fellow of the Institute for Policy Studies.  Advisor to the Episcopal Urban Bishops.  Former member of the Presidential Commission on Education and advisor to the Bureau of the Budget and the Office of Science and Technology in the Executive Office of the President.  Author, co-author and editor of more than 20 books on national security and domestic affairs, including The Four Freedoms under Siege: The Clear and Present Danger from Our National Security State (2006), In Democracy's Shadow: The Secret World of National Security (2005), Liberalism (2003), Visions and Revisions: Reflections on Culture and Democracy at the End of the Century (1998), Abolishing the War System (1992), The Common Good: Its Politics, Policies, and Philosophy (1986), The Politics of National Security (1979).

Endorsement of The New Pearl Harbor:

"This is an important, extraordinarily well-reasoned and provocative book that should be widely read. Griffin raises disturbing questions that deserve thoughtful and truthful answers from our government."

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Steve Pieczenik

Steve Pieczenik, MD, PhD – Served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Presidents Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, and Jimmy Carter and Senior Policy Planner under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush (41). Former Colonel, U.S. Army.

Dr. Pieczenik trained in Psychiatry at Harvard and has both an MD from Cornell University Medical College and a PhD in International Relations from M.I.T.

During his career as a senior State Department official, Dr. Pieczenik utilized his unique abilities and expertise to develop strategies and tactics that were instrumental in resolving major conflicts in Asia, the Middle East, Latin America, Europe and the United States.

Dr. Pieczenik was the principal International Crisis Manager and Hostage Negotiator under Secretaries of State Kissinger and Vance. During this time he developed conflict resolution techniques that were instrumental in saving over five hundred hostages in different terrorist episodes, including the Hanafi Moslem Seizure in Washington, DC, the TWA Croatian Hijacking, the Aldo Moro Kidnapping, the JRA Hijacking, the PLO Hijacking, and many other incidents involving terrorists such as Idi Amin, Muammar Quaddafi, Carlos, FARC, Abu Nidal and Saddam Hussein.

Dr. Pieczenik helped develop negotiation strategies for major U.S. - Soviet arms control summits under the Reagan administration. He was also involved in advising senior officials on important psycho-political dynamics and conflict mediation strategies for President Carter's successful Camp David Peace Conference. In 1991, Dr. Pieczenik was a chief architect of the Cambodian Peace Conference in Paris. He is currently an advisor to the Department of Defense.

Dr. Pieczenik is also a critically acclaimed author of psycho-political thrillers and the co-creator of the New York Times best-selling "Tom Clancy's Op-Center" and "Tom Clancy's Net Force" book series. His novels are based on his twenty years experience in resolving international crises for four U.S. administrations. Other novels include: Terror Counter Terror (2007), My Beloved Talleyrand: The Life of a Scoundrel by His Last Mistress (co-authored with Roberta Rovner - Pieczenik 2005), State of Emergency (1997), Pax Pacifica (1995), Maximum Vigilance (1994), Blood Heat (1989), The Mind Palace (1987), Active Measures (as Alexander Court 2001), Active Pursuit (as Alexander Court 2002). Non-fiction works include: My Life is Great. Why Do I Feel So Awful? (1990).

Interviewed by Paul Joseph Watson on The Alex Jones Show  5/5/11:

"It's very rare to have a host like Alex Jones who had the bravery to bring me on ten years ago right after 9/11 when I pronounced not only was 9/11 a false flag and stand down operation which most Americans now realize, but at the same time, part of the whole scenario of the psyops war as that was created by Bush Junior and before that Clinton, quite frankly because he was involved, was the fact that Osama bin Laden had been diagnosed with Marfan syndrome... with a lifespan very short. ... And at the time that 9/11 occurred he was imminently dying and then by the time Tora Bora came in (December 2001), he was already dead. ... [at 1:00]

What's important to understand at this point, right now, for the public. We have been safe for over 30 to 40 years. Nothing and no one has ever attacked the United States. The only people who attacked the United States was George Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld. ... [at 10:50]

But I didn't expect ten years later for another delusionary panderer called the President [Obama], a politician, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, to continue this nonsensical story that we had been attacked by Muslims, which we hadn't been. We were attacked by our own people in a false flag operation. ... [at 11:40]

The issue at hand now is still more important. We have to stop this government and other governments from continuing to deceive, deny, and continuously manipulate the American public."

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Mike Gravel

Senator Mike Gravel  – Former U.S. Senator from Alaska 1969 - 1980.  Candidate for the 2008 Democratic Presidential nomination.  Most well known for entering over 4,000 pages of the Pentagon Papers into the U.S. Senate record, thus making public the secret official study that revealed the lies and manipulations of successive U.S. administrations that misled the country into the Vietnam War.  (See also Daniel Ellsberg.)  Also known for his successful one-man filibuster for five months in 1971 that forced the Nixon administration to cut a deal, effectively ending the draft (military conscription) in the United States.  Former Member, Alaska House of Representatives 1962-1966, elected Speaker in 1965.  Former Counter-Intelligence officer, U.S. Army. Founder, The Democracy Foundation.  Author of Citizen Power: A People's Platform (1972), Pentagon Papers, In Four Volumes: The Defense Department History of United States Decisionmaking on Vietnam (1971), Jobs and More Jobs (1968).  Contributing author to The Case for a Nuclear Moratorium (1974).

Member: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"Scholars and professionals with various kinds of expertise---including architects, engineers, firefighters, intelligence officers, lawyers, medical professionals, military officers, philosophers, religious leaders, physical scientists, and pilots---have spoken out about radical discrepancies between the official account of the 9/11 attacks and what they, as independent researchers, have learned.

They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official "investigations" have really been cover-up operations.

Thus far, however, there has been no response from political leaders in Washington or, for that matter, in other capitals around the world. Our organization, Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth, has been formed to help bring about such a response.

We believe that the truth about 9/11 needs to be exposed now---not in 50 years as a footnote in the history books---so the policies that have been based on the Bush-Cheney administration's interpretation of the 9/11 attacks can be changed.

We are, therefore, calling for a new, independent investigation of 9/11 that takes account of evidence that has been documented by independent researchers but thus far ignored by governments and the mainstream media."

Video interview by Davis Fleetwood 7/23/07:

Question:  53% of the Americans in the New York Times / CBS [poll] think the government is lying to them about 9/11.  Why is that question not asked at these debates?

Senator Gravel:  I don't know.  They don't want to ask it.  And I pledge to the people who are concerned about that, that should I become President, we're going to have a new investigation.   

Question:  Do we know the whole truth about 9/11?

Senator Gravel:  Hell, no!

Video interview on INN World Report (New York) 2/15/08:

Lenny Charles:  In New York, we have a ballot initiative coming forward.  They're collecting signatures from New York citizens to have a new 9/11 investigation.  And you've been asked to be a Commissioner if that investigation goes forward.  What are your thoughts on that?

Senator Gravel:  I have told the leaders of this organization, Les Jamison and Dr. Pepper, I would be honored to serve on that Commission.  And I hope the citizens of New York pass this initiative.  And I don't know if they'll be able to overcome the powers of the Federal government, but I tell you, if I become President of the United States, that Commission will be created in spades.

We will have a Commission that will re-examine not only what happened at 9/11 and post-9/11, but how -- re-examining all of the intelligence prior to 9/11 -- why the failure took place.  And they'll subpoena anybody and everybody and they'll put them under oath, starting from the President of the United States on down.  And if there's any perjury taking place or criminality is discovered, we'll prosecute them from the President on down to the fullest extent of the law.  And if they go to jail, they go to jail.

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Joel S. Hirschhorn

Joel S. Hirschhorn, BS Metallurgical Engineering, MS Metallurgical Engineering, PhD Materials Engineering – Senior Staff Member, Congressional Office of Technology Assessment 1978 - 1990.  Testified more than 50 times before Congress on technology, science, and environmental issues.  Former Director of Environment, Energy and Natural Resources, National Governors Association.  Dr. Hirschhorn has been a consultant to industrial and chemical companies, DOE laboratories, state governments, and public interest organizations.  Professor of Metallurgical Engineering, University of Wisconsin, Madison 1965 - 1978.  Co-founder of Friends of the Article V Convention at www.foavc.org.  Member, Board of Directors, National Foundation for Environmental Education.  Member, Board of Directors, Sustainability Now!  Author of more than 150 papers, articles, guest editorials, and book chapters on environmental science and technology.  Author of Delusional Democracy: Fixing the Republic Without Overthrowing the Government (2007), Sprawl Kills (2005), New Community Design to the Rescue (2001), Growing pains: Quality of Life in the New Economy (2000), Prosperity without Pollution (1991), Materials Science (1975), Introduction to Powder Metallurgy (1969).

Essay 9/11 Truth Manifesto  12/19/07: 

"For evidence that America's political system is a criminal conspiracy, open your mind to piles of new analyses that prove beyond doubt that the official 9/11 story is a lie.  Years of a bipartisan cover-up of 9/11 lies make it much more than one horrendous past event.  It endures in infamy as a symptom of a corrupt and dishonest government.

Every day we pay for what 9/11 and its cover-up have burdened us with, including the costly Iraq war and the erosion of the rule of law and constitutional rights.  Power elites have suppressed the truth because they fear what will happen when the public understands that 9/11 was not accomplished solely by foreign terrorists.

Technically sound analyses of what happened at the World Trade Center have unequivocally shown that the official 9/11 story is not credible (www.ae911truth.org).  Truth seekers have met their burden of proof; the government has not met theirs.  Simply put, controlled demolition brought down three buildings, not fires from the impact of planes on two of them.  Not only was the US government involved, it has also conspired to hide the truth from the public.  Why?  Republican and Democratic politicians and power elites fear that 9/11 truth will remove what little public trust remains in government.  The truth will produce political instability, perhaps breaking the two-party stranglehold on our political system.  And it should.  And it must, if we are to finally obtain the deep political reforms our nation desperately needs.

The decline started before George W. Bush and his criminal co-conspirators accelerated it with their blatant disregard for the rule of law and our Constitution.  It will continue, even with a Democratic administration, unless we reform our political system.  We must remind Americans that our nation was born in an insurrectionist, populist rebellion against political tyranny – and that 9/11 teaches us that we need a Second American Revolution.  We must destroy the domestic Axis of Arrogance of our plutocracy more than fear a foreign Axis of Evil.  How?

A vast nationwide grassroots 9/11 truth movement is ignored by the mainstream news media.  Its success will be the catalyst for renewing American democracy.  It will produce a shock wave that rattles the brains of all Americans: Shock therapy from a truth so powerful and unsettling that Americans finally see the decline of American democracy that allowed 9/11 and its cover-up.

Make no mistake, the 9/11 truth movement holds the future of the United States.  We are not subversive "conspiracy theorists" or enablers of foreign terrorism.  We are patriotic warriors working to nullify group delusion produced by government propaganda.  Dozens of books and websites reveal countless technical contradictions and inconsistencies with the official government 9/11 story and the laws of physics.  The weight of the evidence supports one painful verdict: Our federal government played a role, probably through a large "black op."  The "why" is obvious: To justify an unjust war to serve corporate interests and greed."

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Ellen Engleman

Ellen Engleman, JD, Master Public Administration  – Former Chair, National Transportation Safety Board 3/03 - 12/07. Former Administrator, Research and Special Programs Administration (RSPA), U.S. Department of Transportation 9/01 - 3/03. Former governmental affairs executive for GTE North 1987 - 1992. Former Congressional Fellow in the office of Senator Richard G. Lugar. Former Personal Assistant to former Secretary of Labor Lynn Martin. Currently Director of External Relations at Johnson Space Center.

Public Comment at National Transportation Security Summit 10/30/01:

"... 12 days prior to the incident on September 11th, we were going though a tabletop exercise. It was actually much more than a tabletop... in preparation for the Olympic games, at the Department of Transportation, which was a full intermodal exercise. During that exercise, part of the scenario, interestingly enough, involved a potentially highjacked plane and someone calling on a cell phone, among other aspects of the scenario that were very strange when twelve days later, as you know, we had the actual event."

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George Kenney

George Kenney – Former career Foreign Service Officer, serving as Yugoslav desk officer at the State Department headquarters in Washington, DC.  Resigned his commission in 1991 over US policy towards the Yugoslav conflict.  Then served as consultant in residence at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.  Currently consultant and commentator on foreign affairs and current events.

Audio interview of James Fetzer 2/25/06:

"I must admit it's difficult for me, as a former bureaucrat, to imagine that people within the US government could pull off a successful conspiracy.  On the other hand, I cannot believe, much as I might like to, the standard account of 9/11."

Audio interview of David Ray Griffin 5/11/07: 

Written introduction to the interview:  "So you implement one of the most stupendous black-ops of all time.  Considering the multitude of variables, you've put together a fairly convincing cover story that fixes blame on Islamic terrorists.  Using the full weight of the political establishment you bulldoze away public discussion of the truth.  A complaisant press repeats your lies in a ciclo infinito forte.  Though a few malcontents won't buy it, they're marginalized.  Then along comes your worst nightmare: a distinguished theologian whose cross-disciplinary specialization involves highly sophisticated reasoning that requires familiarity with logic, science, and the scientific method — a man with no personal vested interest whatsoever (and no way to falsely hang one on him), who digs in tenaciously to ask the right questions, and who becomes a true patriotic hero to many.  In short order, despite the media blackout, a very large percentage of the public becomes skeptical.  Such is the story of Dr. David Ray Griffin, a leader of the 911 Truth movement and author most recently of Debunking 9/11 Debunking.  We all owe David an enormous debt of gratitude for his insights, energy, and determination.  It was a real privilege to talk with him, and I'm sure his balanced views will continue to gain public support.  Total runtime here of an hour and thirteen minutes.  Listen carefully and please redistribute widely."

Mr. Kenney's commentary after the interview:  "We should strive to clearly separate what we know from things we don't.  Thus, we have a reasonably high level of confidence that the Establishment conspiracy narrative is absurd.  The World Trade Center structures came down through controlled demolition.  Flight 93 was shot down over rural Pennsylvania.  And whatever it was that hit the Pentagon could not have been Flight 77.  Further, whatever his peripheral involvement, the planning and implementation of 9/11 did not originate with Osama bin Laden.

But we don't know who the real culprits are, why they acted, or how exactly they managed to stage events.  This continues to be a vexing problem for the 9/11 Truth Movement because without those answers the entire alternative narrative suffers when compared to the Establishment version.

One way to get at this is to empanel a high-level truly neutral international jury to sort out the facts, as David Ray Griffin and others have suggested doing.   The other is to keep digging until more of the truth comes out, which will probably take a very long time.

And a last point, when we're spending such huge sums on a national security state, when it's literally the case that nobody knows where all the money goes and where experts on the spending say that leakage amounts to billions and billions of dollars, it's not so difficult to imagine how much black-ops mischief a billion or two might buy.  Think about it."

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Fred Burks

Fred Burks – Former State Department Interpreter for Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, Vice Presidents Dick Cheney and Al Gore, Secretaries of State Colin Powell and Madeleine Albright.  18-year State Department career.

Essay:

"How is it possible that our military's highly touted missile detections systems could not locate Flight 77 in the 42 minutes it was known to be lost before it crashed into the heart of the defense system of the U.S.? ...

An even bigger question is why isn't our media asking these questions?  Why isn't our military spending many millions of dollars to find out why military defense systems failed on 9/11?  Why is it that the 9/11 commission budget was far less than the budget allotted to the Challenger Disaster or even the Monika Lewinsky affair?"

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J. Michael Springmann

J. Michael Springmann – Former career Foreign Service Officer with the State Department and the International Foreign Trade Administration of the Commerce Department.  Former Consular Officer in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, where he supervised the issuance of visas. 20-year Federal Government career.

Video of Speech to National Press Club 6/10/02:

"I used to be in charge of the visa section at the CIA's Consulate in Jeddah. ... There for a year and a half I issued visas to terrorists recruited by the CIA and its asset Osama Bin Laden. ... Fifteen of the nineteen people who allegedly flew airplanes into buildings in the United States got their visas from the same CIA Consulate at Jeddah."

Interview BBC 11/6/01:

"In Saudi Arabia I was repeatedly ordered by high level State Dept officials to issue visas to unqualified applicants. These were, essentially, people who had no ties either to Saudi Arabia or to their own country. I complained bitterly at the time there. I returned to the US, I complained to the State Dept here, to the General Accounting Office, to the Bureau of Diplomatic Security and to the Inspector General's office. I was met with silence. ...

What I was protesting was, in reality, an effort to bring recruits, rounded up by Osama Bin Laden, to the US for terrorist training by the CIA. They would then be returned to Afghanistan to fight against the then-Soviets."

Interviewed in the documentary film Zero: An Investigation Into 9/11  10/26/07:

"After September 11, 2001, when I heard about the planes crashing into the World Trade Towers and into the Pentagon, I said, 'Jeez, this was the same -- these were the same people according to the Los Angeles Times who had gotten their visas from the American Consulate General at Jeddah.'  I called the Federal Bureau of Investigation and tell them essentially about the visas for terrorist program.  I did this.  I called and I called and I called. I was passed from one office of the FBI to another and ended up at the Washington field office.  And someone there said, 'We'll get back to you.'  Well, six years later, I'm still waiting."

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Daniel Ellsberg

Daniel Ellsberg, PhD  – Former Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Defense. Former State Department envoy to Viet Nam. While working for the government, Ellsberg attained the ultimate civil service grade of GS-18, equivalent to a Major General.  Former U.S. Marine Corps officer. Former military analyst for the Rand Corporation.  Most well known for leaking the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times in 1971.

Interview by Jack Blood on Deadline Live show on GCN radio 7/14/06:

Regarding 9/11 "There is no question in my mind, that there is enough evidence to justify a very comprehensive and hard hitting investigation of the kind we have not seen. With subpoenas, general questioning of people, releasing a lot of documents. There's no question that very serious questions have been raised about how much they knew before hand and how much involvement there may have been."

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Craig Michael Uhl

Craig Michael Uhl, MD  – Former Diplomat and Desk Officer for Tanzania and Uganda, U.S. State Department. Former Physician, U.S. Navy, 10 year Navy career.

Signatory of Petition of Solidarity to the Attorney General of New York for a new independent grand jury investigation of 9/11 11/19/04:

"We the undersigned:  a) think that there is ample evidence and probable cause to believe that many grave and still unresolved crimes were committed by US officials prior to, during and after the events of 9/11;  b) observe that most of these apparent crimes, including but not limited to abetment of mass murder, criminal negligence, insider trading, and obstruction of justice fall well within the jurisdiction of New York's top law enforcement officials ..."

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Robin Hordon

Robin Hordon – Former FAA Air Traffic Controller at the Boston Air Route Traffic Control Center, located in Nashua, NH, 1970 - 1981.  FAA Certified Commercial Pilot.  FAA Certified Flight Instructor and Certified Ground Instructor.  After leaving the FAA, he had a 12-year career in the field of comedy ending up as artistic coordinator for "Catch A Rising Star" in Harvard Square in Cambridge, MA.

Statement to this website 4/10/07:

"I knew within hours of the attacks on 9/11/2001 that it was an inside job.  Based on my 11-year experience as an FAA Air Traffic Controller in the busy Northeast corridor, including hundreds of hours of training, briefings, air refuelings, low altitude bombing drills, being part of huge military exercises, daily military training exercises, interacting on a routine basis directly with NORAD radar personnel, and based on my own direct experience dealing with in-flight emergency situations, including two instances of hijacked commercial airliners, I state unequivocally;  There is absolutely no way that four large commercial airliners could have flown around off course for 30 to 60 minutes on 9/11 without being intercepted and shot completely out of the sky by our jet fighters unless very highly placed people in our government and our military wanted it to happen.

It is important for people to understand that scrambling jet fighters to intercept aircraft showing the signs of experiencing "IN-FLIGHT EMERGENCIES" such as going off course without authorization, losing a transponder signal and/or losing radio contact is a common and routine task executed jointly between the FAA and NORAD controllers. The entire "national defense-first responder" intercept system has many highly-trained civilian and military personnel who are committed and well-trained to this task.  FAA and NORAD continuously monitor our skies and fighter planes and pilots are on the ready 24/7 to handle these situations.  Jet fighters typically intercept any suspect plane over the United States within 10 - 15 minutes of notification of a problem.

This type of "immediate, high speed, high priority and emergency" scramble had been happening regularly approximately 75 - 150 times per year for ten years. ...

I believe that 9/11 was what is known as a "False Flag Operation" in which a country inflicts casualties upon itself, and then blames it on an enemy that they want to go to war against.  It is one more instance in the United States' long history of using "False Flag Operations" and blatant propaganda to ramp-up hostile emotions towards an enemy in a population otherwise resistant to going to war."

Article 3/12/07:

"When it became clear that there hadn't been a systems failure of any kind on the morning of September 11th, Hordon was certain that something had gone terribly wrong within the upper echelons of authority.  A pilot (third level air carrier) as well as an ATC, he is well versed on in-flight emergency protocol.  He is also adamant that if these procedures had been followed on 9/11 not one of the hijacked planes would have reached their targets.

"I'm sorry but American 11 should have been intercepted over southwest Connecticut—bang, done deal." ...

The unfathomable delays seen in military action on 9/11 are inconceivable to those who have painstakingly investigated the matter -- and for a man who worked for years keeping air travel over the U.S. safe. ...

"I think we all have to agree that, one way or another, the U.S. military was involved in the attacks.  The advantage that Rumsfeld had is that he can classify, reshape, make available, make unavailable any information that he wants, at any time and deny that information to the public for any reason, especially national security."

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Danielle O'Brien

Danielle O'Brien - Air Traffic Controller, Dulles Tower, Washington, D.C. On duty the morning of 9/11/01.

ABC News 20/20 6/18/04:

"Air traffic controller Danielle O'Brien was at the Dulles Tower outside Washington, D.C., that morning [of 9/11]. ...

At the Dulles tower, O'Brien saw the televised pictures from New York and headed back to her post to help other planes quickly land. "We started moving the planes as quickly as we could. Then I noticed the aircraft. It was an unidentified plane to the southwest of Dulles, moving at a very high rate of speed. I had literally a blip and nothing more." ...

At a speed of about 500 mph, the plane was headed straight for what is known as P-56, prohibited air space 56, which covers the White House and the U.S. Capitol.

"The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane," said O'Brien. "You don't fly a 757 in that manner. It's unsafe." ...

"This must be a fighter. This must be one of our guys sent in, scrambled to patrol our capital, and to protect our president, and we sat back in our chairs and breathed for just a second," said O'Brien. ...

"We lost radar contact with that aircraft. And we waited. And we waited. And your heart is just beating out of your chest waiting to hear what's happened," said O'Brien. "And then the Washington National [Airport] controllers came over our speakers in our room and said, 'Dulles, hold all of our inbound traffic. The Pentagon's been hit.' "

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Todd Lewis

Todd Lewis  - Air Traffic Controller, Dulles Tower, Washington, D.C. On duty the morning of 9/11/01.

Dateline NBC Interview 9/11/02:

Todd Lewis: " One of my colleagues, saw a primary target moving quite fast from northwest to the southeast.  So, we all started watching that target.  And she notified the supervisor.  But nobody knew that was a commercial flight at the time.  Nobody knew that was American 77."

Tom Brokaw: "What did you think, it was a military flight of some kind –

Todd Lewis: "I thought it was a military flight.  I thought that Langley had scrambled some fighters and maybe one of them got up there."

Tom Brokaw: "It was really moving fast."

Todd Lewis: "It was moving very fast, like a military aircraft might move at a low altitude."

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Karen S. Johnson

Senator Karen S. Johnson – Elected Member, Arizona State Legislature 1997 - present.  Chairman: Family Services Committee.  Co-Chairman: Joint Legislative Committee on Children and Family Services.  Member: Finance Committee, Appropriations Committee, and K-12 Education Committee.

We Deserve the Full Truth about 9/11  Letter to the Editor, The Arizona Republic 5/3/08:

"After three government investigations and more than six years, we still don't have answers on 9/11.

Why, for example, did Building 7 collapse? It wasn't hit by a plane, as the towers were. The 9/11 Commission Report completely ignores Building 7. The Federal Emergency Management Agency report discounts fire as a cause and concludes that the reasons for the collapse of Building 7 are unknown and require further research. But when FEMA issued this report, it already cleared the site and disposed of the dust and steel (evidence from a crime scene), thus possibly committing a felony and complicating any "further research."

The National Institute of Standards and Technology, a federal agency, which evaluated the collapse of the towers, has yet to issue its report on Building 7. "We've had trouble getting a handle on Building 7," said the acting director of their Building and Fire Research Lab.

Yet a number of private-sector engineers, architects, and demolition experts have not had that problem. They think Building 7 came down by controlled demolition. The building collapsed suddenly, straight down, at nearly free-fall speed. People heard the explosions, and saw the squibs and the characteristic billowing clouds of pulverized concrete so unique to demolitions. There is no reason to think that Building 7 came down for any other reason than explosive demolition.

And speaking of pulverized concrete, fire does not pulverize concrete. Even the collapse of one floor upon another wouldn't pulverize concrete the way the Twin Towers disintegrated.

Think back to that day: Those towers didn't just fall down. If they had, we would have had huge chunks of concrete breaking apart and falling into a massive pile of rubble. The buildings likely would have toppled erratically sideways and left a much larger pile of debris.

But that's not what we witnessed. The towers didn't collapse - they disintegrated.

We watched them explode into dust, not knowing exactly what we were seeing. Very little intact concrete was found in the rubble. The sheer energy required to pulverize that much concrete into dust can only come from an explosive process.

Reputable scientists, engineers, architects and firemen with no political angle dispute the 9/11 Commission report and say that the evidence indicates the Twin Towers and Building 7 came down due to controlled-demolition explosions. Tests corroborate the presence of thermite, an explosive used in building demolitions, at the site of the Twin Towers and Building 7.

Thermite also explains the pools of molten steel in the basement, which no one has been able to otherwise explain and which the National Institute of Standards and Technology simply denies. Why is the government refusing to even consider demolition as a possibility? What are they afraid of?

Time magazine reported in September 2006 that 36 percent of Americans believe the government was complicit in 9/11. A Zogby poll reported that 51 percent of Americans want Congress to investigate 9/11 further.

Even the co-chairmen of the 9/11 Commission are upset with the commission report. They have accused the CIA and the military of "obstructing" the investigation. Former Commissioner Max Cleland resigned, stating that the Commission was "compromised." Former FBI Director Louis Freeh has criticized the report for its inaccuracies and unanswered questions.

The events of 9/11 have never been properly investigated. It's about time they were."

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Charles F. Weed

Rep. Charles F. Weed – Member, House of Representatives, State Legislature of New Hampshire 2000 -  present.  Member, Labor, Industrial and Rehabilitative Services Committee.  Professor of Political Science, Keene State College 1972 - present.

Endorser: Vote For Answers New Hampshire Statement:

"As current and former public servants, it is our duty to raise our voice with those from across the country and around the world to call attention to the omissions and falsehoods in the official account of the events of September 11, 2001.  The good people of New Hampshire are asked to sacrifice ever more in the War on Terrorism and yet there has been no true investigation into the events of September 11th for which this war is being fought.  So long as our policies continue to be based on those tragic events, it will never be too late for honest answers to reasonable questions that to this day go unanswered.  In defense of our nation and in defense of freedom itself, we must get to the bottom of what happened."

Personal statement in support of the Political Leaders petition for a new 9/11 investigation:

"The 'official' versions of events occurring on 9/11 do not hold up to empirical scrutiny. A real investigation with qualified special prosecutors--holding subpoena power--is essential for legitimating the US government, and getting beyond the abuses of the Bush Administration."

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Jonathan Weisbuch

Jonathan B. Weisbuch, BS Civil/Sanitary Eng, MD, MPH  – Director, Department of Health and Social Services, State of Wyoming 1987 - 1989.  Former Health Officer, State of North Dakota 1976 - 1980.  Former Director of Correctional Health Services, State of Massachusetts 1974 - 1976. Former Chief Health Officer, Maricopa County, and Director, Maricopa County Public Health Department 1997 - 2004.  Medical Director, Los Angeles County Department of Health Services 1989 -1995.

Past President and Past Vice President, American Association of Public Health Physicians (AAPHP) and AAPHP's representative to the American Medical Association.  Recipient of the Ben Freedman Award for 'long and dedicated service to AAPHP and the practice of Public Health'.  Chair, National Commission on Correctional Health Care 1998 - 1999.  Diplomate, American Board of Preventive Medicine.  Fellow, American College of Preventive Medicine.  Former Officer, U.S. Navy.  Editorial Consultant, American Journal of Public Health.  Associate Editor, Journal of Public Health Policy 1980 - 1984.  Author of more than 40 articles pertaining to public health issues.  Co-author, The Challenges of Community Medicine (1974).

Dr. Weisbuch's extensive academic experience includes:
Adjunct Professor, Arizona State University, College of Human Evolution and Social Change
Clinical Professor, Public Health and Epidemiology Southwestern College of Naturopathic Medicine
Executive Coordinator for Global Health and Adjunct Professor, Arizona State University, Biodesign Institute and College of Human Evolution and Social Change
Associate Chairman and Assistant Professor, Department of Community Medicine, Boston University School of Medicine
Clinical Associate Professor, Department of Preventive Medicine, University of Arizona School of Medicine / Public Health
Adjunct Professor, School of Business Administration, Arizona State University
Adjunct Professor, Midwestern University, Arizona College of Osteopathic Medicine
Clinical Professor, Department of Family Medicine, University of Southern California School of Medicine
Clinical Professor, Dept of Medicine, UCLA School of Medicine and School of Public Health
Office of the Dean, Charles Drew School of Medicine
Clinical Professor, Department of Community Medicine, University of North Dakota School of Medicine
Assistant Professor, Department of Community Medicine, University of Kentucky School of Medicine.

Review of The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions 1/14/07:

"David Griffin's analysis of the Kean-Zelikow bipartisan Report of the events leading up to the highjackings of four aircraft on September 11, 2001, is a "must read" for anyone concerned with the subsequent history of the Bush Administration and the "War on Terror." All may not be as we initially were lead to believe: That fundamental Muslims with the desire to bring down America, plotted a massive terror event that culminated in the plane crashes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the fields of Pennsylvania. This conventional wisdom, supported by the media reporting immediately following the catastrophe, and subsequently "documented" by the Kean-Zelikow Report as analyzed in detail by Dr. Griffin is shown to be laced with omissions of fact, distortions of events, and the rewriting of the history leading to and during September 11, 2001. ..."

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Herbert J. Hoffman

Herbert J. Hoffman, MA, PhD  – Former Chief Mental Health Coordinator and Director of Manpower Development and Training, Massachusetts Department of Mental Health. Retired Clinical Psychologist.  In his 40-year career, Dr. Hoffman held several academic and senior professional positions, including; Lecturer (Psychology), Boston University.  Lecturer on Education, Harvard Graduate School of Education.  Assistant Professor of Research, Heller Graduate School for Advanced Studies in Social Welfare, Brandeis University.  Founder and Faculty Member, Massachusetts School of Professional Psychology.  Executive Director, Brookline (MA) Mental Health Association.  Veteran, U.S. Army.

Statement in support of Medical Professionals petition for Reinvestigation of 9/11:

"I have been following the 9/11 "story" for over 7 years.  The most significant impediment for citizens even considering that the U.S. government is in some way complicit is the unwillingness to entertain that possibility.  The fact that the government and the 9/11 Commission Report could not/would not address certain questions raised by the Jersey Girls, scientists, pilots etc., questions which would seem to have easily available factual responses, strongly suggests "cover up." 

I refer to such items as:  release of the Pentagon and other videos of the Pentagon crash; explanation of the debris scatter at the PA "crash" site; explanation of how these obviously "hijacked" airliners were not intercepted in a timely fashion -- especially the one in DC; a more evidence-based, scientific explanation of the fall of the twin towers and Building 7. 

The failure to produce this information/evidence, along with much more, can only lead to one conclusion:  THERE IS A COVER UP.  There is much data to strongly suggest who and what are being protected and shielded by this cover up.  Hopefully a sufficient number of citizens will shed their denial and demand answers and explanations from our nations leaders."

Member: Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"As medical professionals, we are trained in science and logical reasoning. We are appalled by the lack of scientific rigor and the substantial omissions and blatant distortions in the official account of 9/11 as embodied in the 9/11 Commission Report and related government documents. We join with other organizations of professionals, such as Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Pilots for 9/11 Truth, Firefighters for 9/11 Truth, and Lawyers for 9/11 Truth, and millions of individual citizens in demanding a thorough, impartial, open and transparent reinvestigation of the terrorist acts of 9/11."

Signatory: War Is Illegal Petition 12/07, which states:

"Against a background of escalating ecological crises, and the fact that large parts of the world´s population are being exposed to extreme poverty, inhuman working conditions and increasing social tensions, the annual global military expenditure has risen to more than 1,000 billion dollars.

The military-industrial complex of just a few G8 countries is responsible for the overwhelming part of this spending, causing incalculable social and ecological consequences.

Unequal distribution of global resources, increasingly controlled by large multinational companies, global debt policy and unfair international trading practices ultimately could not be maintained without military security. In many countries the military is used to repress critical opposition.

The terror attacks of September 11, 2001 are increasingly used to justify systematic surveillance and the dismantling of constitutional rights.  [Bold added for emphasis by Editor of this website.]  Even European countries have helped to establish Guantanomo-like secret prisons, where torture in all probability takes place.

Iraq was attacked based on falsified evidence causing the death of hundreds of thousands of people, widespread destruction, destabilization and contamination with cancer-causing depleted uranium munitions.

Now plans to attack Iran and the possibility of a new World War have been made public, meeting resistance even from moderate elements within the military due to the unforeseeable consequences.

Faced with the choice between a war, that according to some western leaders, will last for many years or a possible peaceful transformation we support the following demands: ...

International investigation of the September 11, 2001 terror attacks.  They are used as the central justification for the "War on Terror", but well documented evidence shows that the official explanation of 9/11 cannot be correct.  International personalities in science, politics, and culture, including high-ranking military veterans, have called for a new investigation." [Bold added for emphasis by Editor of this website.]  The full text of the petition is available at http://www.war-is-illegal.org

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Philip J. Berg

Philip J. Berg, Esquire – Former Deputy Attorney General, State of Pennsylvania.

Article 10/29/04:

"The official story of what actually took place on 9-11 is a lie."

Interviewed in the documentary film Zero: An Investigation Into 9/11  10/26/07:

"There is no question in my mind that those buildings, based on the laws of physics, could not have collapsed without the assistance of a bomb.".

Statement 1/4/07:

"Berg continued there is overwhelming evidence that: "Bush and his cronies made 9/11 happen or let it happen.  And, if they let it happen, then they made it happen.  Either way, they are responsible; and more important, they have completely and unequivocally covered-it-up!"

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Roy H. Andes

Roy H. Andes, MA, JD – Former Assistant Attorney General, State of Montana.

Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"As an attorney who is meticulously attentive to issues of evidence and proof, and one very-little inclined to conspiracy theories, I was profoundly skeptical when a friend asked me to view Richard Gage's "Blueprint for Truth" with him.  Over the course of that two-hour viewing, however, I became convinced that there is substance to Mr. Gage's conclusions, and that they deserve serious attention from appropriate authorities.  That this may have happened, causes me grave concern for our country.  Under the circumstances, I am not sure to what authorities we can entrust this matter and its attendant consequences."

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Paul Hellyer

Paul Hellyer – Former Minister of National Defense of Canada. Former Deputy Prime Minister.  Former Member of House of Commons.

Video interview with Kyle Hence 5/27/04 regarding 9/11:

"Why did the President just sit in the schoolroom when he heard the news?  Why did he not acknowledge that he already knew what was going on?  As a former Minister of National Defense, when the news came out I had to wonder.  Why did airplanes fly around for an hour and a half without interceptors being scrambled from Andrews [Air Force Base]? ... With a quick action alert they should have been there in five minutes or ten minutes. ...

I think the inquiry has been very shallow, very superficial.  I would like to see a much tougher, more in-depth inquiry. ... I would like to see someone in a position of authority ask those questions and insist on getting answers, at least to why some of the things that happened that seem to be, for an ordinary person, inexplicable. ...

I'm very disturbed about a lack of transparency.  Everyone talks about it, and no one is willing to come clean, as it were. ... We have to try and get the truth. ... I hope that somebody has the courage and persistence to keep at it until we get it."

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Stephen Beckow

Stephen Beckow – Retired Member of the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada.  Former Historian at the National Museum of Man (now known as the Canadian Museum of Civilization).

Essay 9/11/07:

"George Bush says that he entered the 'war against terror' to avenge the deaths of 3,000 Americans who died on 9/11.

Three-thousand Americans did die on 9/11 and, even though I am a Canadian and not an American, I honor every one of them. But, in my view, they did not die in an act of foreign terror.

I allege that they died at the hands of unknown parties under the direction of President George Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney. ...

The bottom line is that there are no reasons of 'national security' for hiding all the details of 9/11. There is only 'fear of impeachment'."

Essay 9/19/07:

"A growing consensus of Americans (and, in my case, Canadians) believe that 9/11 was a "false flag" operation carried out by the Bush administration and their agents in the American military and intelligence communities. ...

On behalf of all (Canadians or Americans) who have blamed Muslims for the events of 9/11, I apologize for having accepted the official version of events.

I assert that there are no grounds for blaming Muslims for 9/11.

I contend that all racial profiling that has occurred since then has just been part of a drama designed to hide a false-flag operation.

I argue that the "war on terrorism," as of 2001, was non-existent.  Our actions since then may have created one, but that is another matter.

I allege that the Bush Administration has used terror alerts since 9/11 as a way of manipulating the public.

Recently, the Bush administration has given signs that it plans a second 9/11 to kickstart an illegal war on Iran (see my OpEdNews article, The Chronology of a Second 9/11).

If such a horrible catastrophe as a nuclear attack on an American city (the likeliest spot appears to be Portland) is perpetrated upon the people of the United States, I remind them that this too is a Bush-administration crime and has nothing to do with Muslims.

George Bush and Dick Cheney are the real terrorists.  They are guilty of mass murder and high treason.  And we are complicit through our silence and in accepting as the explanation their false charges against Muslims."

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Peter Dale Scott

Peter Dale Scott, PhD – Former Canadian diplomat who served at the United Nations and the Canadian Embassy in Warsaw, Poland.

Professor Emeritus of English at the University of California, Berkeley. He is author of Drugs, Oil and War (2003), and seven other books including Deep Politics and the Death of JFK (1993, 1996) and The Iran-Contra Connection (in collaboration, 1987).  Co-editor of 9/11 and American Empire (Vol I) – Intellectuals Speak Out (2006).  His writings deal among other matters with U.S. covert operations and their impact on democracy at home and abroad.

Congressional briefing testimony 7/22/05 (p.52):

"The American people have been seriously misled about the origins of the al Qaeda movement blamed for the 9/11 attacks, just as they have been seriously misled about the reasons for America's invasion of Iraq. ...

The 9/11 Commission Report assures Americans that "Bin Ladin and his comrades had their own sources of support and training, and they received little or no assistance from the United States.  This misleading statement fails to consider that:

–  Al Qaeda elements received considerable indirect U.S. Government assistance, first in Afghanistan until 1992, and thereafter in other countries such as Azerbaijan (1992-95) ...

–  Key members of the network which became al Qaeda, such as Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, Ali Mohamed, Mohamed Jamal Khalifa, and lead hijacker Mohammed Atta, were granted visas to enter the United States, despite being suspected of terrorism.  Al Qaeda foot soldiers were also admitted to the United States for training under a special visa program. ... [Editor's note: See also J. Michael Springmann.]

–  Repeatedly al Qaeda terrorists were protected by FBI officials from investigation and prosecution."

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Albert Stubblebine

Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984, commanding 15,000 intelligence and security personnel.  Also commanded the U.S. Army's Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army's Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.

Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.

Video interview 6/28/09:

General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. ...

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. ...

So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.

Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?

General Stubblebine:  I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.

Interviewer:  What made you believe that?

General Stubblebine:  Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.

One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. ...

I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! ...

We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.

Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. ...

When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know?

Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06:

"One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army's Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War.  I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, 'The plane does not fit in that hole'. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?"

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Wesley Clark

General Wesley Clark, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. European Command, which included all American military activities in the 89 countries and territories of Europe, Africa, and the Middle East.  Additionally, Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR), which granted him overall command of NATO military forces in Europe 1997 - 2001.  Awarded Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart for his service in Viet Nam and numerous subsequent medals and citations.  Graduated valedictorian of his class at West Point.

Video interview ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos 3/5/06:

"I think when you look at this country, right now, we need a 2-party system that works.  We need Congress to do its job.  We need real investigation of some of the abuses of authority that are apparently going on at the Executive branch. ... We've never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had.  The evidence seems pretty clear to me.  I've seen that for a long time."

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Ronald D. Ray

Col. Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) – Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense during the Reagan Administration and a highly decorated Vietnam veteran (two Silver Stars, a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart).  Appointed by President George H.W. Bush to serve on the American Battle Monuments Commission (1990 - 1994), and on the 1992 Presidential Commission on the Assignment of Women in the Armed Forces.  Military Historian and Deputy Director of Field Operations for the U.S. Marine Corps Historical Center, Washington, D.C. 1990 - 1994.

Article 7/1/06: "The former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under the Reagan Administration and a highly decorated Vietnam veteran and Colonel has gone on the record to voice his doubts about the official story of 9/11 - calling it 'the dog that doesn't hunt.'  'I'm astounded that the conspiracy theory advanced by the administration could in fact be true and the evidence does not seem to suggest that's accurate,' he said."

Alex Jones: Colonel, is it safe to say or is the statement accurate that you smell something rotten in the state of Denmark when it comes to 9/11?

Col. Ray: I'm astounded that the conspiracy theory advanced by the administration could in fact be true and the evidence does not seem to suggest that that's accurate.  That's true.

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Edgar Mitchell

Capt. Edgar Mitchell, U.S. Navy (ret), BS Industrial Management, BS Aeronautical Engineering, Doctor of Science, Aeronautics and Astronautics from MIT  –  Pilot and Astronaut.  Sixth man to walk on the moon (Apollo 14 mission).  Patrol bomber and attack plane pilot, U.S. Navy.  Test Pilot, Air Test and Evaluation Squadron 5 (VX-5).  Chief of Project Management Division, Navy Field Office for the Manned Orbiting Laboratory Project.  Graduated first in his class from the Aerospace Research Pilot School, and served as an instructor there.  Recipient of many awards and honors including the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the USN Distinguished Medal and three NASA Group Achievement Awards. Inducted to the Space Hall of Fame in 1979 and the Astronaut Hall of Fame in 1998.  Recipient of honorary doctorates in engineering from New Mexico State University, the University of Akron, Carnegie Mellon University, and a ScD from Embry-Riddle University.  Founder of the Institute of Noetic Sciences.

Endorser of and proposed Commissioner of a New Investigation into 9/11 as described in the New York City Ballot Initiative 11/08:

"Petition to Create a NYC Independent Commission with Subpoena Power to Conduct a Comprehensive and Fact-Driven Investigation of All Relevant Aspects of the Tragic Events of September 11, 2001 and Issue a Report.

WHEREAS, many New York City voters believe that there remain many unanswered questions critical to establishing the truth about all relevant events leading up to, during and subsequent to the tragic attacks occurring on September 11, 2001 ("9/11"), and

WHEREAS, no prior investigation by any New York City agency or any other governmental entity has resulted in the citizens being provided with those critical answers or information necessary to establish the truth about those tragic events, ...

An independent, temporary New York City commission (the "Commission") is hereby created to conduct a comprehensive, factdriven investigation into the events that took place on 9/11, as well as to thoroughly examine related events before and after the attacks, including any activities attempting to hide, cover up, impede or obstruct any investigation into these 9/11 events, following wherever the facts may lead. The Commission shall publish one or more reports of their findings."

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Robert Bowman

Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter.  U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech).   Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology.  22-year Air Force career.  Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.

Video 9/11/04:

"A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash.  It's impossible. ... There's a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. ... Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don't want us to know what happened and who's responsible....

Who gained from 9/11?  Who covered up crucial information about 9/11?  And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place?  When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it's highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen.  Now some people will say that's much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder."

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George Nelson

Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority.  Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College.  34-year Air Force career.

Licensed commercial pilot.  Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.

Essay:

"In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. ...

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. ...

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history."

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Ann Wright

Col. Ann Wright, U.S. Army (ret) – Retired Army officer and former U.S. Diplomat.  Served 13 years on active duty with the U.S. Army and 16 years in the U.S. Army Reserves. She was a member of the International law team in Operation Urgent Fury in Grenada and served in Panama and Somalia. She joined the Foreign Service in 1987 and served as Deputy Chief of Mission of U.S. Embassies in Sierra Leone, Micronesia and Afghanistan. She helped reopen the US Embassy in Kabul in December, 2001.  One of three U.S. State Department officials to publicly resign in direct protest of the invasion of Iraq in March, 2003.

Signatory of a Letter to Congress regarding the 9/11 Commission Report 9/13/04, signed by 25 military, intelligence, and law enforcement veterans:

"[W]e the undersigned wish to bring to the attention of the Congress and the people of the United States what we believe are serious shortcomings in the report and its recommendations. ...

Omission is one of the major flaws in the Commission's report. We are aware of significant issues and cases that were duly reported to the commission by those of us with direct knowledge, but somehow escaped attention. ...

The omission of such serious and applicable issues and information by itself renders the report flawed, and casts doubt on the validity of many of its recommendations. ...

The Commission, with its incomplete report of "facts and circumstances", intentional avoidance of assigning accountability, and disregard for the knowledge, expertise and experience of those who actually do the job, has now set about pressuring our Congress and our nation to hastily implement all its recommendations. ...

We the undersigned, who have worked within various government agencies (FBI, CIA, FAA, DIA, Customs) responsible for national security and public safety, call upon you in Congress to include the voices of those with first-hand knowledge and expertise in the important issues at hand. We stand ready to do our part."

Interview with Laurie Van Auken, conducted by Richard Greene on Air America Radio 9/11/07:

"It's incredible some of these things that still are unanswered.  The 9/11 Report; that was totally inadequate.  I mean the questions that anybody has after reading that.  You know, like -- One of the questions, "Why would people even get in planes and come after us?"  That question was not at all addressed, much less all of these very, very interesting events that were going on that day, like Laurie was talking about.

How could our national intelligence and defense operations be so inept that they could not communicate; that they could not scramble jets; that they could not take defensive action?   And I totally agree.  I always thought the Pentagon had all sorts of air defense sort of equipment around it; that they could take out anything that was coming at it.   And for a plane to be able to just fly low right over Washington and slam into that thing is just -- I mean, you still just shake your head.  How in the world could that happen? ...

There's a very specific glide path that comes in for planes to land at [Reagan] National Airport [one mile from the Pentagon].  And you know whether it's somebody using a different transponder but even a plane  any plane, a military plane with a transponder going --  that was flying that low into Washington, a big plane like that should have set off alarm bells."  Occurs at about the 60% point of the two-hour recording.

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Donn de Grand-Pre

Col. Donn de Grand-Pre, U.S. Army (ret) (1926 - 2009) – Former Director, Ground Weapons Systems, Office of International Logistics Negotiations serving as chief Pentagon arms negotiator for the Middle East. Former Civilian Deputy Chief of the International Division, Office of the Chief of Research and Development. Also served as Commander of Special Troops for the U.S. Army Reserves. Served as radio operator in World War II. Became commissioned officer in 1950. Infantry troop leader and paratrooper, as well as a combat troop commander and intelligence officer with the 27th Infantry "Wolfhound" Regiment in Korea 1950 - 1953. Sustained major injuries in Korea 1953. FAA certified private pilot. Author of Confessions of an Arms Peddler (1979), Barbarians Inside the Gates Book 1  (2000), The Viper's Venom: Barbarians Inside the Gates (Book III) (2002), Look Homeward Cowboy: A Saga of World War II (2002), The Rattler's Revenge: Barbarians Inside the Gates (Book III) (2003), The Boys from Bent Willow: A Saga of World War II (2003).

Article September 11 - U.S. Government Accused by the Portugal News 3/8/02:

"A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand [sic], after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft.

In a detailed press communiqué the inquiry stated: "The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation carried out against the USA, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets."

The report seriously questions whether or not the suspect hijackers, supposedly trained on Cessna light aircraft, could have located a target dead-on 200 miles from take off point. It further throws into doubt their ability to master the intricacies of the instrument flight rules (IFR) in the 45 minutes from take off to the point of impact. Colonel de Grand said that it would be impossible for novices to have taken control of the four aircraft and orchestrated such a terrible act requiring military precision of the highest order."

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Shelton F. Lankford

Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) – Retired U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown. Decorations include the Distinguished Flying Cross and 32 awards of the Air Medal. Aircraft flown: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk, Lockheed C-130H Hercules. 10,000+ total hours flown. 20-year Marine Corps career.

Article Twenty-five U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Account of 9/11 1/14/08:

"September 11, 2001 seems destined to be the  watershed event of our lives and the greatest test for our democracy in our lifetimes.  The evidence of government complicity in the lead-up to the events, the failure to respond during the event, and the  astounding lack of any meaningful investigation afterwards, as well as the ignoring of evidence turned up by others that renders the official explanation impossible, may signal the end of the American experiment.  It has been used to justify all manners of measures to legalize repression at home and as a pretext for behaving as an aggressive empire abroad.  Until we demand an independent, honest, and thorough investigation and accountability for those whose action and inaction led to those events and the cover-up, our republic and our Constitution remain in the gravest danger."

Statement to this website 2/20/07:

"This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future. ...

Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.

If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you? Scholars for 9/11 truth have developed reams of scientific data. Michael Ruppert published an exhaustive account of the case from the viewpoint of a trained investigator. David Ray Griffin provides a context for the unanswered or badly answered questions that should nag at anyone who pretends to love this country.

Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can't handle it? ...

Do a little research. Google is a wonderful tool.

What does it all add up to? The Commission was, as was the Warren Commission before it, a dog and pony show ... "

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Karen Kwiatkowski

Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force career.  Member adjunct faculty, Political Science Department, James Madison University.  Instructor, University of Maryland University College and American Public University System.  Author of African Crisis Response Initiative: Past Present and Future (2000) and Expeditionary Air Operations in Africa: Challenges and Solutions (2001).

Contributor to 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out 8/23/06:

Account of Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, Pentagon employee and eyewitness to the events at the Pentagon on 9/11.  "I believe the Commission failed to deeply examine the topic at hand, failed to apply scientific rigor to its assessment of events leading up to and including 9/11, failed to produce a believable and unbiased summary of what happened, failed to fully examine why it happened, and even failed to include a set of unanswered questions for future research. ...

It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics.  The collapses of the World Trade Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics. ...

There was a dearth of visible debris on the relatively unmarked [Pentagon] lawn, where I stood only minutes after the impact.  Beyond this strange absence of airliner debris, there was no sign of the kind of damage to the Pentagon structure one would expect from the impact of a large airliner. This visible evidence or lack thereof may also have been apparent to the secretary of defense [Donald Rumsfeld], who in an unfortunate slip of the tongue referred to the aircraft that slammed into the Pentagon as a "missile". ...

I saw nothing of significance at the point of impact - no airplane metal or cargo debris was blowing on the lawn in front of the damaged building as smoke billowed from within the Pentagon. ... all of us staring at the Pentagon that morning were indeed looking for such debris, but what we expected to see was not evident.

The same is true with regard to the kind of damage we expected. ... But I did not see this kind of damage. Rather, the facade had a rather small hole, no larger than 20 feet in diameter. Although this facade later collapsed, it remained standing for 30 or 40 minutes, with the roof line remaining relatively straight. 

The scene, in short, was not what I would have expected from a strike by a large jetliner. It was, however, exactly what one would expect if a missile had struck the Pentagon. ...

More information is certainly needed regarding the events of 9/11 and the events leading up to that terrible day."

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Guy S. Razer

Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot.  Former instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program.  As an Air Force weapons effects expert was responsible for wartime tasking of most appropriate aircraft/munition for target destruction to include steel and concrete superstructures.  Former aeronautical structures flight test engineer with McDonnell Douglas, working on advanced DC-9 autopilot systems and DC-10 flight envelope expansion stress and flutter analysis.  Tactical aircraft flown: General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber, McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle, General Dynamics / Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet, Boeing B-1 Bomber, MiG-29 (Russian fighter), and Su-22 (Russian fighter/bomber).  3,000+ fighter hours.  Combat time over Iraq.  20-year Air Force career.

Statement to this website 3/25/07:

"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government.  It is now time to take our country back.

The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned.  There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a coffee break.  It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned.  Further damning evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building collapse." [Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories.  It would have been the tallest building in 33 states.  Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers.  However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks."  Watch the collapse video here.  And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.]

We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail.  Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic".  Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.

We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now.  Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders.  The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"

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Jeff Latas

Lt. Col. Jeff Latas, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former combat fighter pilot.  Aerospace engineer.  Currently Captain at a major airline.  Combat experience includes Desert Storm and four tours of duty in Northern and Southern Watch.  Aircraft flown: McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle and General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber.  Former President, U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board.  Also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review.  Awarded Distinguish Flying Cross for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals.  20-year Air Force career.

Audio interview with Rob Balsamo 6/25/07:

Regarding the 9/11 Commission's account of the impact of Flight 77 at the Pentagon and discrepancies with the actual Flight Data Recorder information:

"After I did my own analysis of it, it's obvious that there's discrepancies between the two stories;  between the 9/11 Commission and the flight data recorder information.  And I think that's where we really need to focus a lot of our attention to get the help that we need in order to put pressure on government agencies to actually do a real investigation of 9/11.  And not just from a security standpoint, but from even an aviation standpoint, like any accident investigation would actually help the aviators out by finding reasons for things happening. ...

The things that really got my attention were the amount of descent rate that you had to have at the end of the flight, of Flight 77, that  would have made it practically impossible to hit the light poles. [Editor's note: Destruction of the light poles near the Pentagon by Flight 77 was stated in the 9/11 Commission Report.]  Essentially it would have been too high at that point to the point of impact where the main body of the airplane was hitting between the first and second floor of the Pentagon. ...

You know, I'd ride my bike to the Pentagon.  So, you know I'm a little bit familiar with that area.  [Editor's note: Lt. Col. Latas served as a Weapons Requirement Officer at the Pentagon.]  But, you know, that kind of descent rate it would have been impossible essentially for the results that we see physically from what the flight data recorder was recording.  Like I say, that's an area that I think deserves explanation. ...

The ground track [the path of the airplane] is off from the 9/11 Commission.  There are several things that can be brought up but it's been a while since I've seen the film and looked at the flight data recorder.  And I can't think of all the discrepancies I saw, but there are several there.  [The film he refers to is Pandora's Black Box, Chapter 2, Flight of American 77.] ...

And I think that we Americans need to demand further investigation just to clarify the discrepancies that you've [Pilots for 9/11 Truth] found.  And I think that we need to be getting on the phone with our Congressmen and women and letting them know that we don't accept the excuses that we're hearing now, that we want true investigators to do a true investigation."

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Ted Muga

Commander Ted Muga, BS CE, U.S. Navy (ret) – Retired Pan-Am commercial airline pilot.  Commercial aircraft flown: Boeing 707 and 727.  7,500 total commercial hours flown. Retired Civil Engineer.  Retired Naval aviator.  Military aircraft flown: Grumman E-1 Tracer and E-2 Hawkeye.  3,800 total military hours flown.

Alex Jones: Recap Hani Hanjour's maneuver, what they claim -- go through the maneuver they claim he did and then what supposedly happened there at the Pentagon ...

Commander Muga:  The maneuver at the Pentagon was just a tight spiral coming down out of 7,000 feet.  And a commercial aircraft, while they can in fact structurally somewhat handle that maneuver, they are very, very, very difficult.  And it would take considerable training.  In other words, commercial aircraft are designed for a particular purpose and that is for comfort and for passengers and it's not for military maneuvers.  And while they are structurally capable of doing them, it takes some very, very talented pilots to do that. ...

When a commercial airplane gets that high, it gets very, very close to getting into what you refer to as a speed high-speed stall.  And a high-speed stall can be very, very violent on a commercial-type aircraft and you never want to get into that situation.  I just can't imagine an amateur even being able to come close to performing a maneuver of that nature.   

And as far as hijacking the airplanes, once again getting back to the nature of pilots and airplanes, there is no way that a pilot would give up an airplane to hijackers. ...

I mean, hell, a guy doesn't give up a TV remote control much less a complicated 757.  And so to think that pilots would allow a plane to be taken over by a couple of 5 foot 7, 150 pound guys with a one-inch blade boxcutter is ridiculous.

And also in all four planes, if you remember, none of the planes ever switched on their transponder to the hijack code.  There's a very, very simple code that you put in if you suspect that your plane is being hijacked.  It takes literally just a split-second for you to put your hand down on the center console and flip it over.  And not one of the four planes ever transponded a hijack code, which is most, most unusual. ...

Commercial airplanes are very, very complex pieces of machines.  And they're designed for two pilots up there, not just two amateur pilots, but two qualified commercial pilots up there.  And to think that you're going to get an amateur up into the cockpit and fly, much less navigate, it to a designated target, the probability is so low, that it's bordering on impossible."

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Ralph Kolstad

Commander Ralph Kolstad, U.S. Navy (ret)  – Retired fighter pilot.  Former Air Combat Instructor, U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School (Topgun).  20-year Navy career.  Aircraft flown: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom, Douglas A-4 Skyhawk, and Grumman F-14 Tomcat.  Retired commercial airline captain with 27 years experience.  Aircraft flown: Boeing 727, 757 and 767, McDonnell Douglas MD-80, and Fokker F-100.  23,000+ total hours flown.

Statement to this website 8/20/07:

"I started questioning the Sept 11, 2001 "story" only days after the event.  It just didn't make any sense to me.  How could a steel and concrete building collapse after being hit by a Boeing 767?  Didn't the engineers design it to withstand a direct hit from a Boeing 707, approximately the same size and weight of the 767?  The evidence just didn't add up. ...

At the Pentagon, the pilot of the Boeing 757 did quite a feat of flying.  I have 6,000 hours of flight time in Boeing 757's and 767's and could not have flown it the way the flight path was described.

I was also a Navy fighter pilot and Air Combat Instructor, U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School and have experience flying low altitude, high speed aircraft.  I could not have done what these beginners did.  Something stinks to high heaven!

Where is the damage to the wall of the Pentagon from the wings?  Where are the big pieces that always break away in an accident?  Where is all the luggage?  Where are the miles and miles of wire, cable, and lines that are part and parcel of any large aircraft?  Where are the steel engine parts?  Where is the steel landing gear?  Where is the tail section that would have broken into large pieces?

I also personally knew American Airlines Captain "Chick" Burlingame, who was the captain of Flight 77 which allegedly hit the Pentagon, and I know he would not have given up his airplane to crazies!

And at the Shanksville Pennsylvania impact site, where is any of the wreckage?!!!  Of all the pictures I have seen, there is only a hole!  Where is any piece of a crashed airplane?  Why was the area cordoned off, and no inspection allowed by the normal accident personnel?  Where is any evidence at all?

When one starts using his own mind, and not what one was told, there is very little to believe in the official "story". ...

Every question leads to another question that has not been answered by anyone in authority. This is just the beginning as to why I don't believe the official "story" and why I want the truth to be told."

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James Clow

Commander James Clow, MS, U.S. Coast Guard (ret)  – Retired U.S. Coast Guard officer with extensive crisis management/emergency response training and drill experience. Hands-on domestic and overseas emergency response operations. Former military assignments included; Chief, USCG National Response Center, USCG Headquarters, Washington, D.C. Project Manager, USCG Marine Safety Information System. Chief, Environmental Protection Branch, USCG, Portsmouth, VA. Former civilian roles included; Manager, Texaco Worldwide Response Team, Beacon, NY. Regional Response Manager, Equiva Services Crisis Management, Houston, TX. Regional Response Manager, Shell Oil Products, Houston, TX. Former Chair, American Petroleum Spills Task Force, Washington, D.C. and Chair, American Petroleum Spills Advisory Group, Washington, D.C. Graduate U.S. Coast Guard Academy.

Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"No matter how one views the videos of the Towers and Building 7 collapsing, the laws of physics MUST hold true. If F=ma appears to have been violated (e.g., free-fall collapse of the buildings at nearly 9.8 m/sec/sec), then something is seriously amiss and one must start looking for the "other hand" hidden beneath the table to discover what is really happening. Your video does a good job of pointing out the fallacies and ineptitude advanced by the government investigators."

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Joel M. Skousen

Joel M. Skousen  – Former U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot.  Commercial pilot.  Aircraft flown: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom, Douglas A-4 Skyhawk, Grumman F-9 Cougar, North American T-2C Buckeye, various civilian planes.  Member, Experimental Aircraft Association.  Member, Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association.  Former Chairman of the Conservative National Committee in Washington DC and Executive Editor of Conservative Digest.  Author of Essential Principles for the Conservation of Liberty (1984), The Secure Home--Architectural Design, Construction and Remodeling of Self-Sufficient Residences and Retreats (1982, 1999), How to Implement a High Security Shelter in the Home (1996), Strategic Relocation--North American Guide to Safe Places (1998), Foundations of the Ideal State (2007).

Essay Debunking the Debunkers 2/14/05:

"For over a decade now, the PTB [Powers That Be] have used an odd vehicle to do their debunking on a variety of issues - Popular Mechanics Magazine (a Hearst publication).  I suppose they are targeting the back-yard mechanic and auto-enthusiast crowd, who are often prone to accepting conspiracy facts and theories.

In the March 2005 issue, PM magazine singled out 16 issues or claims of the 9/11 skeptics that point to government collusion and systematically attempted to debunk each one.  Of the 16, most missed the mark and almost half were straw men arguments - either ridiculous arguments that few conspiracists believed or restatements of the arguments that were highly distorted so as to make them look weaker than they really were. ...

I am one of those who claim there are factual arguments pointing to conspiracy, and that truth is not served by taking cheap shots at those who see gaping flaws in the government story ...

There is significant evidence that the aircraft impacts did not cause the collapse [of the Twin Towers] ...

The issues of the penetration hole [at the Pentagon] and the lack of large pieces of debris simply do not jive with the official story, but they are explainable if you include the parking lot video evidence that shows a huge white explosion at impact. This cannot happen with an aircraft laden only with fuel.  It can only happen in the presence of high explosives."

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Douglas Rokke

Major Douglas Rokke, PhD, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Director U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Project.  30-year Army career. Instructor, undergraduate and graduate courses in environmental science, environmental engineering, nuclear physics, emergency management. Staff physicist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign for 19 years.

Article 8/19/05:

Regarding the impact at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001 "When you look at the whole thing, especially the crash site void of airplane parts, the size of the hole left in the building and the fact the projectile's impact penetrated numerous concrete walls, it looks like the work of a missile.  And when you look at the damage, it was obviously a missile."

Speech The Science and Politics of 9/11 Conference, Madison, WI 8/5/07:

"When we blew up the World Trade Center - I want to repeat, that it was deliberately blown up. The aircraft definitely hit the sucker. There were definite explosions inside the thing. You talk to Willie Rodriguez, you talk to the police and the fire, my guys - no two ways about it. It's on the radio communications. Everything else out there. It happened. The Pentagon, same thing. No aircraft hit the Pentagon. Totally impossible! You couldn't make the turns with a 757. You couldn't fly it in over the highway. You couldn't fly it over the light poles. You couldn't even get it that close to the ground because of turbulence."

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Russ Wittenberg

Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force  – Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions.  Retired commercial pilot.  Flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years.  Aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777.  30,000+ total hours flown.  Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines aircraft that were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC).

Video interview 9/11 Ripple Effect 8/07:

"I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11; the Fight number 175 and Flight 93, the 757 that allegedly went down in Shanksville and Flight 175 is the aircraft that's alleged to have hit the South Tower. I don't believe it's possible for, like I said, for a terrorist, a so-called terrorist to train on a [Cessna] 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it's design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, exceeding -- pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G's.  And the aircraft would literally fall out of the sky.  I couldn't do it and I'm absolutely positive they couldn't do it."

Article 7/17/05:

"The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple." ... Wittenberg convincingly argued there was absolutely no possibility that Flight 77 could have "descended 7,000 feet in two minutes, all the while performing a steep 280 degree banked turn before crashing into the Pentagon's first floor wall without touching the lawn."... 

"For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand," said Wittenberg, recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727's to the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737's through 767's it took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying."

Audio Interview 9/16/04:

Regarding Flight 77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon.  "The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall.  The airplane won't go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers at those bank angles. ... To expect this alleged airplane to run these maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ludicrous...

It's roughly a 100 ton airplane.  And an airplane that weighs 100 tons all assembled is still going to have 100 tons of disassembled trash and parts after it hits a building.  There was no wreckage from a 757 at the Pentagon. ... The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77.  We think, as you may have heard before, it was a cruise missile."

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Albert Stubblebine

Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984, commanding 15,000 intelligence and security personnel.  Also commanded the U.S. Army's Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army's Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.

Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.

Video interview 6/28/09:

General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. ...

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. ...

So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.

Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?

General Stubblebine:  I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.

Interviewer:  What made you believe that?

General Stubblebine:  Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.

One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. ...

I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! ...

We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.

Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. ...

When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know?

Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06:

"One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army's Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War.  I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, 'The plane does not fit in that hole'. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?"

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Wesley Clark

General Wesley Clark, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. European Command, which included all American military activities in the 89 countries and territories of Europe, Africa, and the Middle East.  Additionally, Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR), which granted him overall command of NATO military forces in Europe 1997 - 2001.  Awarded Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart for his service in Viet Nam and numerous subsequent medals and citations.  Graduated valedictorian of his class at West Point.

Video interview ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos 3/5/06:

"I think when you look at this country, right now, we need a 2-party system that works.  We need Congress to do its job.  We need real investigation of some of the abuses of authority that are apparently going on at the Executive branch. ... We've never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had.  The evidence seems pretty clear to me.  I've seen that for a long time."

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Ronald D. Ray

Col. Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) – Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense during the Reagan Administration and a highly decorated Vietnam veteran (two Silver Stars, a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart).  Appointed by President George H.W. Bush to serve on the American Battle Monuments Commission (1990 - 1994), and on the 1992 Presidential Commission on the Assignment of Women in the Armed Forces.  Military Historian and Deputy Director of Field Operations for the U.S. Marine Corps Historical Center, Washington, D.C. 1990 - 1994.

Article 7/1/06: "The former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under the Reagan Administration and a highly decorated Vietnam veteran and Colonel has gone on the record to voice his doubts about the official story of 9/11 - calling it 'the dog that doesn't hunt.'  'I'm astounded that the conspiracy theory advanced by the administration could in fact be true and the evidence does not seem to suggest that's accurate,' he said."

Alex Jones: Colonel, is it safe to say or is the statement accurate that you smell something rotten in the state of Denmark when it comes to 9/11?

Col. Ray: I'm astounded that the conspiracy theory advanced by the administration could in fact be true and the evidence does not seem to suggest that that's accurate.  That's true.

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Edgar Mitchell

Capt. Edgar Mitchell, U.S. Navy (ret), BS Industrial Management, BS Aeronautical Engineering, Doctor of Science, Aeronautics and Astronautics from MIT  –  Pilot and Astronaut.  Sixth man to walk on the moon (Apollo 14 mission).  Patrol bomber and attack plane pilot, U.S. Navy.  Test Pilot, Air Test and Evaluation Squadron 5 (VX-5).  Chief of Project Management Division, Navy Field Office for the Manned Orbiting Laboratory Project.  Graduated first in his class from the Aerospace Research Pilot School, and served as an instructor there.  Recipient of many awards and honors including the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the USN Distinguished Medal and three NASA Group Achievement Awards. Inducted to the Space Hall of Fame in 1979 and the Astronaut Hall of Fame in 1998.  Recipient of honorary doctorates in engineering from New Mexico State University, the University of Akron, Carnegie Mellon University, and a ScD from Embry-Riddle University.  Founder of the Institute of Noetic Sciences.

Endorser of and proposed Commissioner of a New Investigation into 9/11 as described in the New York City Ballot Initiative 11/08:

"Petition to Create a NYC Independent Commission with Subpoena Power to Conduct a Comprehensive and Fact-Driven Investigation of All Relevant Aspects of the Tragic Events of September 11, 2001 and Issue a Report.

WHEREAS, many New York City voters believe that there remain many unanswered questions critical to establishing the truth about all relevant events leading up to, during and subsequent to the tragic attacks occurring on September 11, 2001 ("9/11"), and

WHEREAS, no prior investigation by any New York City agency or any other governmental entity has resulted in the citizens being provided with those critical answers or information necessary to establish the truth about those tragic events, ...

An independent, temporary New York City commission (the "Commission") is hereby created to conduct a comprehensive, factdriven investigation into the events that took place on 9/11, as well as to thoroughly examine related events before and after the attacks, including any activities attempting to hide, cover up, impede or obstruct any investigation into these 9/11 events, following wherever the facts may lead. The Commission shall publish one or more reports of their findings."

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Robert Bowman

Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter.  U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech).   Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology.  22-year Air Force career.  Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.

Video 9/11/04:

"A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash.  It's impossible. ... There's a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. ... Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don't want us to know what happened and who's responsible....

Who gained from 9/11?  Who covered up crucial information about 9/11?  And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place?  When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it's highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen.  Now some people will say that's much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder."

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George Nelson

Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority.  Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College.  34-year Air Force career.

Licensed commercial pilot.  Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.

Essay:

"In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. ...

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. ...

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history."

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Ann Wright

Col. Ann Wright, U.S. Army (ret) – Retired Army officer and former U.S. Diplomat.  Served 13 years on active duty with the U.S. Army and 16 years in the U.S. Army Reserves. She was a member of the International law team in Operation Urgent Fury in Grenada and served in Panama and Somalia. She joined the Foreign Service in 1987 and served as Deputy Chief of Mission of U.S. Embassies in Sierra Leone, Micronesia and Afghanistan. She helped reopen the US Embassy in Kabul in December, 2001.  One of three U.S. State Department officials to publicly resign in direct protest of the invasion of Iraq in March, 2003.

Signatory of a Letter to Congress regarding the 9/11 Commission Report 9/13/04, signed by 25 military, intelligence, and law enforcement veterans:

"[W]e the undersigned wish to bring to the attention of the Congress and the people of the United States what we believe are serious shortcomings in the report and its recommendations. ...

Omission is one of the major flaws in the Commission's report. We are aware of significant issues and cases that were duly reported to the commission by those of us with direct knowledge, but somehow escaped attention. ...

The omission of such serious and applicable issues and information by itself renders the report flawed, and casts doubt on the validity of many of its recommendations. ...

The Commission, with its incomplete report of "facts and circumstances", intentional avoidance of assigning accountability, and disregard for the knowledge, expertise and experience of those who actually do the job, has now set about pressuring our Congress and our nation to hastily implement all its recommendations. ...

We the undersigned, who have worked within various government agencies (FBI, CIA, FAA, DIA, Customs) responsible for national security and public safety, call upon you in Congress to include the voices of those with first-hand knowledge and expertise in the important issues at hand. We stand ready to do our part."

Interview with Laurie Van Auken, conducted by Richard Greene on Air America Radio 9/11/07:

"It's incredible some of these things that still are unanswered.  The 9/11 Report; that was totally inadequate.  I mean the questions that anybody has after reading that.  You know, like -- One of the questions, "Why would people even get in planes and come after us?"  That question was not at all addressed, much less all of these very, very interesting events that were going on that day, like Laurie was talking about.

How could our national intelligence and defense operations be so inept that they could not communicate; that they could not scramble jets; that they could not take defensive action?   And I totally agree.  I always thought the Pentagon had all sorts of air defense sort of equipment around it; that they could take out anything that was coming at it.   And for a plane to be able to just fly low right over Washington and slam into that thing is just -- I mean, you still just shake your head.  How in the world could that happen? ...

There's a very specific glide path that comes in for planes to land at [Reagan] National Airport [one mile from the Pentagon].  And you know whether it's somebody using a different transponder but even a plane  any plane, a military plane with a transponder going --  that was flying that low into Washington, a big plane like that should have set off alarm bells."  Occurs at about the 60% point of the two-hour recording.

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Donn de Grand-Pre

Col. Donn de Grand-Pre, U.S. Army (ret) (1926 - 2009) – Former Director, Ground Weapons Systems, Office of International Logistics Negotiations serving as chief Pentagon arms negotiator for the Middle East. Former Civilian Deputy Chief of the International Division, Office of the Chief of Research and Development. Also served as Commander of Special Troops for the U.S. Army Reserves. Served as radio operator in World War II. Became commissioned officer in 1950. Infantry troop leader and paratrooper, as well as a combat troop commander and intelligence officer with the 27th Infantry "Wolfhound" Regiment in Korea 1950 - 1953. Sustained major injuries in Korea 1953. FAA certified private pilot. Author of Confessions of an Arms Peddler (1979), Barbarians Inside the Gates Book 1  (2000), The Viper's Venom: Barbarians Inside the Gates (Book III) (2002), Look Homeward Cowboy: A Saga of World War II (2002), The Rattler's Revenge: Barbarians Inside the Gates (Book III) (2003), The Boys from Bent Willow: A Saga of World War II (2003).

Article September 11 - U.S. Government Accused by the Portugal News 3/8/02:

"A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand [sic], after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft.

In a detailed press communiqué the inquiry stated: "The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation carried out against the USA, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets."

The report seriously questions whether or not the suspect hijackers, supposedly trained on Cessna light aircraft, could have located a target dead-on 200 miles from take off point. It further throws into doubt their ability to master the intricacies of the instrument flight rules (IFR) in the 45 minutes from take off to the point of impact. Colonel de Grand said that it would be impossible for novices to have taken control of the four aircraft and orchestrated such a terrible act requiring military precision of the highest order."

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Shelton F. Lankford

Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) – Retired U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown. Decorations include the Distinguished Flying Cross and 32 awards of the Air Medal. Aircraft flown: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk, Lockheed C-130H Hercules. 10,000+ total hours flown. 20-year Marine Corps career.

Article Twenty-five U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Account of 9/11 1/14/08:

"September 11, 2001 seems destined to be the  watershed event of our lives and the greatest test for our democracy in our lifetimes.  The evidence of government complicity in the lead-up to the events, the failure to respond during the event, and the  astounding lack of any meaningful investigation afterwards, as well as the ignoring of evidence turned up by others that renders the official explanation impossible, may signal the end of the American experiment.  It has been used to justify all manners of measures to legalize repression at home and as a pretext for behaving as an aggressive empire abroad.  Until we demand an independent, honest, and thorough investigation and accountability for those whose action and inaction led to those events and the cover-up, our republic and our Constitution remain in the gravest danger."

Statement to this website 2/20/07:

"This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future. ...

Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.

If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you? Scholars for 9/11 truth have developed reams of scientific data. Michael Ruppert published an exhaustive account of the case from the viewpoint of a trained investigator. David Ray Griffin provides a context for the unanswered or badly answered questions that should nag at anyone who pretends to love this country.

Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can't handle it? ...

Do a little research. Google is a wonderful tool.

What does it all add up to? The Commission was, as was the Warren Commission before it, a dog and pony show ... "

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Karen Kwiatkowski

Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force career.  Member adjunct faculty, Political Science Department, James Madison University.  Instructor, University of Maryland University College and American Public University System.  Author of African Crisis Response Initiative: Past Present and Future (2000) and Expeditionary Air Operations in Africa: Challenges and Solutions (2001).

Contributor to 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out 8/23/06:

Account of Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, Pentagon employee and eyewitness to the events at the Pentagon on 9/11.  "I believe the Commission failed to deeply examine the topic at hand, failed to apply scientific rigor to its assessment of events leading up to and including 9/11, failed to produce a believable and unbiased summary of what happened, failed to fully examine why it happened, and even failed to include a set of unanswered questions for future research. ...

It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics.  The collapses of the World Trade Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics. ...

There was a dearth of visible debris on the relatively unmarked [Pentagon] lawn, where I stood only minutes after the impact.  Beyond this strange absence of airliner debris, there was no sign of the kind of damage to the Pentagon structure one would expect from the impact of a large airliner. This visible evidence or lack thereof may also have been apparent to the secretary of defense [Donald Rumsfeld], who in an unfortunate slip of the tongue referred to the aircraft that slammed into the Pentagon as a "missile". ...

I saw nothing of significance at the point of impact - no airplane metal or cargo debris was blowing on the lawn in front of the damaged building as smoke billowed from within the Pentagon. ... all of us staring at the Pentagon that morning were indeed looking for such debris, but what we expected to see was not evident.

The same is true with regard to the kind of damage we expected. ... But I did not see this kind of damage. Rather, the facade had a rather small hole, no larger than 20 feet in diameter. Although this facade later collapsed, it remained standing for 30 or 40 minutes, with the roof line remaining relatively straight. 

The scene, in short, was not what I would have expected from a strike by a large jetliner. It was, however, exactly what one would expect if a missile had struck the Pentagon. ...

More information is certainly needed regarding the events of 9/11 and the events leading up to that terrible day."

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Guy S. Razer

Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot.  Former instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program.  As an Air Force weapons effects expert was responsible for wartime tasking of most appropriate aircraft/munition for target destruction to include steel and concrete superstructures.  Former aeronautical structures flight test engineer with McDonnell Douglas, working on advanced DC-9 autopilot systems and DC-10 flight envelope expansion stress and flutter analysis.  Tactical aircraft flown: General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber, McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle, General Dynamics / Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet, Boeing B-1 Bomber, MiG-29 (Russian fighter), and Su-22 (Russian fighter/bomber).  3,000+ fighter hours.  Combat time over Iraq.  20-year Air Force career.

Statement to this website 3/25/07:

"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government.  It is now time to take our country back.

The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned.  There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a coffee break.  It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned.  Further damning evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building collapse." [Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories.  It would have been the tallest building in 33 states.  Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers.  However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks."  Watch the collapse video here.  And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.]

We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail.  Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic".  Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.

We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now.  Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders.  The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"

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Jeff Latas

Lt. Col. Jeff Latas, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former combat fighter pilot.  Aerospace engineer.  Currently Captain at a major airline.  Combat experience includes Desert Storm and four tours of duty in Northern and Southern Watch.  Aircraft flown: McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle and General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber.  Former President, U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board.  Also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review.  Awarded Distinguish Flying Cross for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals.  20-year Air Force career.

Audio interview with Rob Balsamo 6/25/07:

Regarding the 9/11 Commission's account of the impact of Flight 77 at the Pentagon and discrepancies with the actual Flight Data Recorder information:

"After I did my own analysis of it, it's obvious that there's discrepancies between the two stories;  between the 9/11 Commission and the flight data recorder information.  And I think that's where we really need to focus a lot of our attention to get the help that we need in order to put pressure on government agencies to actually do a real investigation of 9/11.  And not just from a security standpoint, but from even an aviation standpoint, like any accident investigation would actually help the aviators out by finding reasons for things happening. ...

The things that really got my attention were the amount of descent rate that you had to have at the end of the flight, of Flight 77, that  would have made it practically impossible to hit the light poles. [Editor's note: Destruction of the light poles near the Pentagon by Flight 77 was stated in the 9/11 Commission Report.]  Essentially it would have been too high at that point to the point of impact where the main body of the airplane was hitting between the first and second floor of the Pentagon. ...

You know, I'd ride my bike to the Pentagon.  So, you know I'm a little bit familiar with that area.  [Editor's note: Lt. Col. Latas served as a Weapons Requirement Officer at the Pentagon.]  But, you know, that kind of descent rate it would have been impossible essentially for the results that we see physically from what the flight data recorder was recording.  Like I say, that's an area that I think deserves explanation. ...

The ground track [the path of the airplane] is off from the 9/11 Commission.  There are several things that can be brought up but it's been a while since I've seen the film and looked at the flight data recorder.  And I can't think of all the discrepancies I saw, but there are several there.  [The film he refers to is Pandora's Black Box, Chapter 2, Flight of American 77.] ...

And I think that we Americans need to demand further investigation just to clarify the discrepancies that you've [Pilots for 9/11 Truth] found.  And I think that we need to be getting on the phone with our Congressmen and women and letting them know that we don't accept the excuses that we're hearing now, that we want true investigators to do a true investigation."

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Ted Muga

Commander Ted Muga, BS CE, U.S. Navy (ret) – Retired Pan-Am commercial airline pilot.  Commercial aircraft flown: Boeing 707 and 727.  7,500 total commercial hours flown. Retired Civil Engineer.  Retired Naval aviator.  Military aircraft flown: Grumman E-1 Tracer and E-2 Hawkeye.  3,800 total military hours flown.

Alex Jones: Recap Hani Hanjour's maneuver, what they claim -- go through the maneuver they claim he did and then what supposedly happened there at the Pentagon ...

Commander Muga:  The maneuver at the Pentagon was just a tight spiral coming down out of 7,000 feet.  And a commercial aircraft, while they can in fact structurally somewhat handle that maneuver, they are very, very, very difficult.  And it would take considerable training.  In other words, commercial aircraft are designed for a particular purpose and that is for comfort and for passengers and it's not for military maneuvers.  And while they are structurally capable of doing them, it takes some very, very talented pilots to do that. ...

When a commercial airplane gets that high, it gets very, very close to getting into what you refer to as a speed high-speed stall.  And a high-speed stall can be very, very violent on a commercial-type aircraft and you never want to get into that situation.  I just can't imagine an amateur even being able to come close to performing a maneuver of that nature.   

And as far as hijacking the airplanes, once again getting back to the nature of pilots and airplanes, there is no way that a pilot would give up an airplane to hijackers. ...

I mean, hell, a guy doesn't give up a TV remote control much less a complicated 757.  And so to think that pilots would allow a plane to be taken over by a couple of 5 foot 7, 150 pound guys with a one-inch blade boxcutter is ridiculous.

And also in all four planes, if you remember, none of the planes ever switched on their transponder to the hijack code.  There's a very, very simple code that you put in if you suspect that your plane is being hijacked.  It takes literally just a split-second for you to put your hand down on the center console and flip it over.  And not one of the four planes ever transponded a hijack code, which is most, most unusual. ...

Commercial airplanes are very, very complex pieces of machines.  And they're designed for two pilots up there, not just two amateur pilots, but two qualified commercial pilots up there.  And to think that you're going to get an amateur up into the cockpit and fly, much less navigate, it to a designated target, the probability is so low, that it's bordering on impossible."

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Ralph Kolstad

Commander Ralph Kolstad, U.S. Navy (ret)  – Retired fighter pilot.  Former Air Combat Instructor, U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School (Topgun).  20-year Navy career.  Aircraft flown: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom, Douglas A-4 Skyhawk, and Grumman F-14 Tomcat.  Retired commercial airline captain with 27 years experience.  Aircraft flown: Boeing 727, 757 and 767, McDonnell Douglas MD-80, and Fokker F-100.  23,000+ total hours flown.

Statement to this website 8/20/07:

"I started questioning the Sept 11, 2001 "story" only days after the event.  It just didn't make any sense to me.  How could a steel and concrete building collapse after being hit by a Boeing 767?  Didn't the engineers design it to withstand a direct hit from a Boeing 707, approximately the same size and weight of the 767?  The evidence just didn't add up. ...

At the Pentagon, the pilot of the Boeing 757 did quite a feat of flying.  I have 6,000 hours of flight time in Boeing 757's and 767's and could not have flown it the way the flight path was described.

I was also a Navy fighter pilot and Air Combat Instructor, U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School and have experience flying low altitude, high speed aircraft.  I could not have done what these beginners did.  Something stinks to high heaven!

Where is the damage to the wall of the Pentagon from the wings?  Where are the big pieces that always break away in an accident?  Where is all the luggage?  Where are the miles and miles of wire, cable, and lines that are part and parcel of any large aircraft?  Where are the steel engine parts?  Where is the steel landing gear?  Where is the tail section that would have broken into large pieces?

I also personally knew American Airlines Captain "Chick" Burlingame, who was the captain of Flight 77 which allegedly hit the Pentagon, and I know he would not have given up his airplane to crazies!

And at the Shanksville Pennsylvania impact site, where is any of the wreckage?!!!  Of all the pictures I have seen, there is only a hole!  Where is any piece of a crashed airplane?  Why was the area cordoned off, and no inspection allowed by the normal accident personnel?  Where is any evidence at all?

When one starts using his own mind, and not what one was told, there is very little to believe in the official "story". ...

Every question leads to another question that has not been answered by anyone in authority. This is just the beginning as to why I don't believe the official "story" and why I want the truth to be told."

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James Clow

Commander James Clow, MS, U.S. Coast Guard (ret)  – Retired U.S. Coast Guard officer with extensive crisis management/emergency response training and drill experience. Hands-on domestic and overseas emergency response operations. Former military assignments included; Chief, USCG National Response Center, USCG Headquarters, Washington, D.C. Project Manager, USCG Marine Safety Information System. Chief, Environmental Protection Branch, USCG, Portsmouth, VA. Former civilian roles included; Manager, Texaco Worldwide Response Team, Beacon, NY. Regional Response Manager, Equiva Services Crisis Management, Houston, TX. Regional Response Manager, Shell Oil Products, Houston, TX. Former Chair, American Petroleum Spills Task Force, Washington, D.C. and Chair, American Petroleum Spills Advisory Group, Washington, D.C. Graduate U.S. Coast Guard Academy.

Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"No matter how one views the videos of the Towers and Building 7 collapsing, the laws of physics MUST hold true. If F=ma appears to have been violated (e.g., free-fall collapse of the buildings at nearly 9.8 m/sec/sec), then something is seriously amiss and one must start looking for the "other hand" hidden beneath the table to discover what is really happening. Your video does a good job of pointing out the fallacies and ineptitude advanced by the government investigators."

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Joel M. Skousen

Joel M. Skousen  – Former U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot.  Commercial pilot.  Aircraft flown: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom, Douglas A-4 Skyhawk, Grumman F-9 Cougar, North American T-2C Buckeye, various civilian planes.  Member, Experimental Aircraft Association.  Member, Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association.  Former Chairman of the Conservative National Committee in Washington DC and Executive Editor of Conservative Digest.  Author of Essential Principles for the Conservation of Liberty (1984), The Secure Home--Architectural Design, Construction and Remodeling of Self-Sufficient Residences and Retreats (1982, 1999), How to Implement a High Security Shelter in the Home (1996), Strategic Relocation--North American Guide to Safe Places (1998), Foundations of the Ideal State (2007).

Essay Debunking the Debunkers 2/14/05:

"For over a decade now, the PTB [Powers That Be] have used an odd vehicle to do their debunking on a variety of issues - Popular Mechanics Magazine (a Hearst publication).  I suppose they are targeting the back-yard mechanic and auto-enthusiast crowd, who are often prone to accepting conspiracy facts and theories.

In the March 2005 issue, PM magazine singled out 16 issues or claims of the 9/11 skeptics that point to government collusion and systematically attempted to debunk each one.  Of the 16, most missed the mark and almost half were straw men arguments - either ridiculous arguments that few conspiracists believed or restatements of the arguments that were highly distorted so as to make them look weaker than they really were. ...

I am one of those who claim there are factual arguments pointing to conspiracy, and that truth is not served by taking cheap shots at those who see gaping flaws in the government story ...

There is significant evidence that the aircraft impacts did not cause the collapse [of the Twin Towers] ...

The issues of the penetration hole [at the Pentagon] and the lack of large pieces of debris simply do not jive with the official story, but they are explainable if you include the parking lot video evidence that shows a huge white explosion at impact. This cannot happen with an aircraft laden only with fuel.  It can only happen in the presence of high explosives."

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Douglas Rokke

Major Douglas Rokke, PhD, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Director U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Project.  30-year Army career. Instructor, undergraduate and graduate courses in environmental science, environmental engineering, nuclear physics, emergency management. Staff physicist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign for 19 years.

Article 8/19/05:

Regarding the impact at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001 "When you look at the whole thing, especially the crash site void of airplane parts, the size of the hole left in the building and the fact the projectile's impact penetrated numerous concrete walls, it looks like the work of a missile.  And when you look at the damage, it was obviously a missile."

Speech The Science and Politics of 9/11 Conference, Madison, WI 8/5/07:

"When we blew up the World Trade Center - I want to repeat, that it was deliberately blown up. The aircraft definitely hit the sucker. There were definite explosions inside the thing. You talk to Willie Rodriguez, you talk to the police and the fire, my guys - no two ways about it. It's on the radio communications. Everything else out there. It happened. The Pentagon, same thing. No aircraft hit the Pentagon. Totally impossible! You couldn't make the turns with a 757. You couldn't fly it in over the highway. You couldn't fly it over the light poles. You couldn't even get it that close to the ground because of turbulence."

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Russ Wittenberg

Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force  – Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions.  Retired commercial pilot.  Flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years.  Aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777.  30,000+ total hours flown.  Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines aircraft that were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC).

Video interview 9/11 Ripple Effect 8/07:

"I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11; the Fight number 175 and Flight 93, the 757 that allegedly went down in Shanksville and Flight 175 is the aircraft that's alleged to have hit the South Tower. I don't believe it's possible for, like I said, for a terrorist, a so-called terrorist to train on a [Cessna] 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it's design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, exceeding -- pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G's.  And the aircraft would literally fall out of the sky.  I couldn't do it and I'm absolutely positive they couldn't do it."

Article 7/17/05:

"The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple." ... Wittenberg convincingly argued there was absolutely no possibility that Flight 77 could have "descended 7,000 feet in two minutes, all the while performing a steep 280 degree banked turn before crashing into the Pentagon's first floor wall without touching the lawn."... 

"For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand," said Wittenberg, recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727's to the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737's through 767's it took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying."

Audio Interview 9/16/04:

Regarding Flight 77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon.  "The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall.  The airplane won't go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers at those bank angles. ... To expect this alleged airplane to run these maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ludicrous...

It's roughly a 100 ton airplane.  And an airplane that weighs 100 tons all assembled is still going to have 100 tons of disassembled trash and parts after it hits a building.  There was no wreckage from a 757 at the Pentagon. ... The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77.  We think, as you may have heard before, it was a cruise missile."

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Dette er både skremmende og oppmuntrende lesning på en gang, Joste. Det skremmende er selvsagt at det er bortenfor enhver tvil at det skjedde en forbrytelse den dagen, og det var ikke 19 arabere med tapetkniver som stod bak. 12 år etterpå er de skyldige fortsatt fri, og fortsatt utnytter de det fascistiske kuppet som skjedde den dagen og hver dag etterpå. Det oppmuntrende er selvsagt at stadig fler innser at noe er alvorlig galt med dette, og stadig fler får også stadig klarere forståelse av hva som ikke kan ha skjedd, og dermed er de litt nærmere sannheten.

De som siteres i innleggene dine representerer nok den vanlige kritiske holdningen på det tidspunktet utsagnene falt. Den første løgnen var den latterlige historien om de 19 araberne (nærmest en Ali-Baba historie). Den andre var mer sofistikert. De fleste sitatene dine har ikke gjennomskuet forsvarsverk nummer 2, nemlog hypotesen om Controlled Demolition som jeg må inrømme jeg også trodde på ganske lenge, rett og slett fordi jeg ikke kunne se andre muligheter. Men det vet vi jo fra klimadebatten er en logisk feilslutning, og så også her.

Et glimt av en virkelighet som overgår fantasien kan du få her. For de som er interessert kan jeg gi mer konkrete tips.
http://www.youtube.com/v/5jton1YqueA?hl=en_US&version=3

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De fleste sitatene dine har ikke gjennomskuet forsvarsverk nummer 2, nemlog hypotesen om Controlled Demolition som jeg må innrømme jeg også trodde på ganske lenge, rett og slett fordi jeg ikke kunne se andre muligheter. Men det vet vi jo fra klimadebatten er en logisk feilslutning, og så også her.

Det er en korrekt observasjon av deg, Amatør1. Det er ganske forståelig at de den gang de uttalte seg ikke klarte se det mest innlysende i forbindelse med de to tårnene. Som du skriver, var du selv av samme oppfatning som dem på akkurat dette punktet, og det var så absolutt jeg også.

Jeg kunne lagt ut navnet på 1200-1300 til, men jeg gir meg med denne lista nå. Den var svært viktig for meg å få lagt ut. Oppførselen til enkelte har ikke vært allverdens enkel å ta til seg, og jeg er ikke uten videre klar til å la dette fare uten ytterligere kommentarer. Flere ganger har jeg, i likhet med en av de som blir sitert, henvist folk til Google. Det var mens jeg fortsatt var så naiv at jeg trodde folk var ute etter å finne fakta så godt det lar seg gjøre. Den illusjonen har bristet en gang for alle.

Det er allikevel slik at jeg ser det som svært viktig å få fram opplysninger om det som skjedde i USA den 11. september 2001. Det som skjedde den dagen var at verden ble kastet ut i Den tredje verdenskrig, men på grunn av folks vaner med blind autoritetstro er dette noe som ser ut til å ha gått de fleste hus forbi. Dette skyldes i første rekke MSM, et MSM flere av de som er sitert påstår er fullstendig korrupt. Vel, det har jeg jo forsøkt peke på et par ganger selv...

Norske myndigheters totale svik mot egen befolkning

Våre Stortingspolitikere har vært nødt til å vite alt dette jeg tar opp i denne tråden. Slik er det bare. Eller, det finnes en ørliten mulighet for det motsatte. Den muligheten åpner for et like dystert perspektiv og en like svart framtid som at det er politikerne våre som er ansvarlige. Denne muligheten er at E-tjenesten i kongeriket Norge holder ytterst nødvendig informasjon unna våre folkevalgte politikere. Dette stemmer skremmende nok bra når man ser på hvem som bygde opp e-tjenestenes e-tjeneste i Norge, Jens Christian Hauge.

Hele kampen mot terror, eller kampen mot "terror" er en False Flag Operation. En svindel. Det fullstendige og perfekte svik. Norske myndigheter har sendt våre soldater til Afghanistan for å bekjempe en fiktiv fiende. En fiende som kun er en trussel mot økonomiske og politiske super-klandestine krefter som er ute etter noe helt annet enn menneskehetens beste. Dette er mennesker som ikke eier menneskelige egenskaper som empati, skyldfølelse eller evnen til å skille mellom rett og galt. Jeg minner om denne:



Jeg sier som en av de som uttalte seg i de sitatene jeg la ut. Her er det om å gjøre å få de skyldige dømt. Fra presidenten i USA og nedover. Dette er noe som må gjelde mengder av autoritære maktmennesker også utenfor USAs landegrenser.

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Her er en link til en av de aller første websidene som presenterte troverdige bevis på forbrytelsen, og som beviser at den offisielle historien til Cheney & Bush er fysisk umulig. Websiden ble første gang kopiert av The WayBackMachine 2. August 2002, mindre enn ett år etter hendelsene.

Før den tid var det vanskelig for utenforstående (f.eks. oss i Europa) å ha divergerende syn, pluss vi var alle utsatt for et massivt psykologisk press: "You are either with us, or with the enemy" sa Bush, og selv her til lands reiste vi oss på arbeidsplassene og stod i 2 minutters (eller var det 5?) stillhet. Massesuggesjon.

Websiden var fransk og hadde Engelsk og italiensk oversettelse, her er den arkiverte versjonen fra WayBackMachine, der man blir bedt om å svare på 7 spørsmål om hvor det ble av Boeing 757-200 flyet som forsvant i Pentagon.

Hunt the Boeing! And test your perceptions!

Da jeg så den siden i 2002/2003 begynte jeg å lure. Jeg lurer fortsatt. Bare det som kom fram der er nok til å falsifisere tøvet om de 19 araberne. Seinere har vi fått vite mye, mye mer. Hvorfor er ingen stilt til ansvar?

Oppdatering  August 09, 2013, 21:44:37 pm: Stavefeil

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Da jeg så den siden i 2002/2003 begynte jeg å lure. Jeg lurer fortsatt. Bare det som kom fram der er nok til å falsifisere tøvet om de 19 araberne. Seinere har vi fått vite mye, mye mer. Hvorfor er ingen stilt til ansvar?

Ingen har blitt stilt til ansvar fordi den frie presse er en illusjon. Jeg minner om at dette er den samme pressen/MSM som dekker klimasaken. Det er de samme eierne og de samme redaktørene og "journalistene". Tenkte det var greit å nevne dette, siden det kan virke som om mange fortsatt tror de kan hente fakta hos MSM når det gjelder alt annet enn klimasaken.

Ingen har blitt stilt til ansvar fordi vestens politikere, frivillig eller ufrivillig, ikke er annet enn løpegutter/-jenter for bankoligarkene, og bankoligarkene er de samme som dominerer MSM og sionistmiljøet. Les Balfour Declaration.

Ingen har blitt stilt til ansvar fordi det sionistiske miljøet som dominerte Bush-administrasjonen, har hatt samme dominans i USA i 150 år. Og i Storbritannia. Og Frankrike.

I boka The New Freedom: A Call for the Emancipation of the Generous Energies of a People, Woodroow Wilson, 1913, side 13, skrev den nylig avgåtte amerikanske presidenten:

Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.

John Francis Hylan var borgermester i New York i perioden 1918-1925. Den 26. mars 1922 sa han i en tale:

The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government, which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. To depart from mere generalizations, let me say that at the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller-Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as the international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes.
'They practically control both parties, write political platforms, make catspaws of party leaders, use the leading men of private organizations, and resort to every device to place in nomination for high public office only such candidates as will be amenable to the dictates of corrupt big business.

'These international bankers and Rockefeller-Standard Oil interests control the majority of the newspapers and magazines in this country. They use the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of office public officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government. It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.

Franklin D. Roosevelt skrev i et brev til Col. Edward Mandell House, 21. november 1933:

The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson — and I am not wholly excepting the Administration of W. W. The country is going through a repetition of Jackson's fight with the Bank of the United States — only on a far bigger and broader basis.

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Jeg skrev at jeg ikke kom til å legge ut flere vitnemål, men etter å ha lest flere av dem, har jeg ikke noe valg.

Patriotsquestion911.com - Survivors

Dette er ofre for krigshandlingen og volden amerikanske myndigheter og sionistbevegelsen utsatte amerikanske sivile for den 11. september 2001. Vi skylder dem alle å bli tatt på alvor. De forteller hva de selv ble utsatt for og observerte disse dramatiske timene. De har vitnet for den offisielle undersøkelseskommisjonen styrt av de samme som sto bak, og felles for dem alle er at de ikke ble hørt. Flere av dem forteller at de ble skadd av en serie eksplosjoner i de nederste etasjene av tårnene på World Trade Center før og etter at bygningene ble truffet. Dette til tross, i den offisielle rapporten bestilt av Bush-administrasjonen står det ikke et ord om disse eksplosjonene!

9/11 Survivors and Family Members Question the 9/11 Commission Report

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William Rodriguez

William Rodriguez – WTC survivor.  An American Building Maintenance employee for twenty years, responsible for inspection and maintenance at the World Trade Center, who held the master key for the stairs. He was the last person to leave the building on September 11 and has been credited with saving many lives.  For his efforts, he received the National Hero Award from the Senate of Puerto Rico.  Founder, Hispanic Victims Group.

Article 6/24/05:

Regarding an explosion in the sub-basement of the World Trade Center North Tower on 9/11, prior to any airplane impact. "When I heard the sound of the explosion, the floor beneath my feet vibrated, the walls started cracking and it everything started shaking," said Rodriguez, who was huddled together with at least 14 other people in the office. ... [Editor's note: At this point, Mr. Rodriguez was in sub-basement B1 of the North Tower, approximately 1,100 feet below the airplane's impact point at floors 93 to 98.]

"Seconds after the first massive explosion below in the basement still rattled the floor, I hear another explosion from way above," said Rodriguez.  "Although I was unaware at the time, this was the airplane hitting the tower, it occurred moments after the first explosion."

But before Rodriguez had time to think, co-worker Felipe David stormed into the basement office with severe burns on his face and arms, screaming for help and yelling "explosion! explosion! explosion!"

David had been in front of a nearby freight elevator on sub-level 1 about 400 feet from the office when fire burst out of the elevator shaft, causing his injuries.

"He was burned terribly," said Rodriguez. "The skin was hanging off his hands and arms. His injuries couldn't have come from the airplane above, but only from a massive explosion below. I don't care what the government says, what scientists say. I saw a man burned terribly from a fire that was caused from an explosion below.

"I know there were explosives placed below the trade center. I helped a man to safety who is living proof, living proof the government story is a lie and a cover-up. ...

"I disagree 100%with the government story," said Rodriguez. "I met with the 9/11 Commission behind closed doors and they essentially discounted everything I said regarding the use of explosives to bring down the north tower.

"And I contacted NIST previously four times without a response. Finally, this week I asked them before they came up with their conclusion that jet fuel brought down the towers, if they ever considered my statements or the statements of any of the other survivors who heard the explosions. They just stared at me with blank faces and didn't have any answers."

Her er en ansatt på WTC som oppholdt seg i etasjene under bakkenivå. Han forteller om en eksplosjon der. En eksplosjon som alvorlig skadet en av hans medarbeidere, som kom gående med store skader og ansiktshud og huden på armene hengende mens han ropte Eksplosjon! Eksplosjon!

Dette vitnet han om for undersøkelseskommisjonen, men da han til slutt spurte dem om de hadde tatt med vitnemålet hans, så de bare på ham med tomme ansikter.

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Anthony Saltalamacchia

Anthony Saltalamacchia – WTC Survivor.  Maintenance Supervisor at the World Trade Center, overseeing over 100 American Building Maintenance employees.

Video interview by William Rodriguez 9/07:

"On the morning of September 11th, I was in my office.  I was just getting the work handed out to all the employees. ... [Editor's note: At this point, Mr. Saltalamacchia was in sub-basement B1 of the North Tower, approximately 1,100 feet below the airplane's impact point at floors 93 to 98.]

We heard a massive explosion that was in the World Trade Center about 8:46 a.m. in the morning.  The explosion came from -- I believe at first we believed that it came from the Mechanical Room.  [Editor's note: The Mechanical Room was below them in a lower sub-basement .]

Then we heard a series of other explosions that sounded up on the above levels of the building.  We then realized that there was something wrong and there was a major problem.  And about, I'd say, 14 to 15 people came running and screaming into our office. ...

Then right after that the floor started shaking.  The tile from above, which was above us, started coming down, falling on us.  And we knew that there was something seriously wrong happening.

A man came into the office.  He was a black man, very shaky, like in shock.  He had multiple wounds.  His arms were bleeding.  Skin was peeling off.  You could see basically his flesh.  It was a very tough thing to see. ... [Editor's note: Mr. Saltalamacchia is referring to Felipe David.]

And as we're standing there, more explosions were happening.  A lot of screaming confusion. ...

It was very smoky, very cloudy.  It just looked very serious.  We knew we had to get out of the building. ...

The amount of explosions I've heard from 8:46 until the time we got out was so many, at least ten.  It was just like multiple explosions to where I felt like there were different grenades.  That's what it sounded like, it was different grenades being set off in the building.  It was like -- There was one major explosion, and then there was different explosions throughout that period of time until we got out.

Do I believe six years after 9/11? I don't know the truth. I don't believe a word that they say. I just don't believe  Everything they say is a cover up. ... No, definitely don't leave it alone. I think that we should get documents to know the truth of what was really going on that we didn't know that we should know now."

Her forteller et vitne om mange eksplosjoner, minst 10. Han forteller også om den samme skadde. Dette vitnet tror selvsagt ikke på noe som helst av det myndighetene har konkludert med. Han kaller det bent fram cover up.

Og nordmenn flest? De vet ikke en ting om dette. De suser rundt i sin arrogante likegyldighet

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Phillip Morelli

Phillip Morelli – WTC survivor. Construction worker at the World Trade Center for seven years.

Video interview:

"At 8:30 he says he was headed for level B-4 in Tower One [North Tower], four stories below ground.

"... As I'm walking by the main freight car of the building, in the corridor, that's when I got blown.  I mean the impact of the explosion, from whatever happened, it threw me to the floor. And that's when everything started happening.  It knocked me right to the floor. You didn't know what it was.  Of course, you're assuming something fell over on the loading dock, something very heavy, something very big.  You don't know what happened.  And all of a sudden you just felt the floor moving. ... [Editor's note: At this point, Mr. Morelli was in the sub-basement of the North Tower, approximately 1,100 feet below the airplane's point of impact at floors 93 to 98.]

I was racing -- I was going towards the bathroom. All of a sudden. I opened the door. I didn't know it was a bathroom. And all of a sudden a big impact happened again. And all the ceiling tiles were falling down. The light fixtures were falling, swinging out of the ceiling.  And I come running out the door and everything, the walls were down. And I now started running towards the parking lots."

Nearly 100 floors below where the first plane hit Phil felt the devastating impact. ...

"As I ran to the parking lots, you know, I mean, everybody screaming ... There was a lot of smoke down there. ... You gotta go clear across the whole -- from One to Two World Trade Center. That's the way you gotta run.

And then all of a sudden it happened all over again. Building Two got hit. I don't know that. I just know something else hit us to the floor.  Right in the basement you felt it. The walls were caving in. Everything that was going on. I know of people that got killed in the basement.  I know of people that got broken legs in the basement.  People got reconstructive surgery because the walls hit them in the face." http://real.ny1.com


Editor's note: Despite hundreds of eyewitness reports of explosions throughout the Twin Towers by doomed victims, survivors, emergency service personnel, reporters, and bystanders, the 9/11 Commission Report contains virtually no mention of them and entirely ignores them in its conclusions. Graeme MacQueen's analysis of oral histories of 9/11 taken from 503 FDNY survivors reveals more than 100 FDNY personnel reported explosions in the Twin Towers.

Nytt vitne som forteller om mengder av eksplosjoner under bakkenivå på et av tårnene. Han forteller om mange skadde og drepte, og jeg gjentar: Det finnes intet tatt med fra disse vitnemålene i myndighetenes offisielle rapport om 9/11 Klikk linken over for å lese alle vitnerapportene fra WTC. Her er hjemmesiden deres, og de har gjort en fantastisk jobb! http://patriotsquestion911.com

Disse eksplosjonene på/under bakkenivå før bygningene blir truffet av fly har jeg ingen filmdokumentasjon om. Dette fordi folk flest jo ikke var klar over hva som var i ferd med å skje på det tidspunktet. Derimot kommer flere eksplosjoner etter at tårnene er truffet. På den ene filmen kommer først en eksplosjon med røyk og støv som kommer ut på bakkenivå, samtidig som et helikopter kommer flyvende inn over tårnet. Så setter helikopteret fart igjen og kommer ut av røyken etter brannen i toppen av tårnet, og da starter den plutselig pulveriseringen av tårnet fra toppen og nedover.

Se de første 6 minuttene av denne filmen, så får dere med selvsyn erfare hva som skjedde. De 6 minuttene nevnt fordi de viser eksplosjonen på bakkenivå som jeg nevnte. Se for all del resten av filmen også, som jeg linker til og forteller om fordi den bekrefter vitnemålene fra øyenvitnene om at det var eksplosjoner på bakkenivå og under bakkenivå den 11. september 2001.

http://archive.org/details/911_Eyewitness

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Jeg skrev at jeg ikke kom til å legge ut flere vitnemål, men etter å ha lest flere av dem, har jeg ikke noe valg.

Patriotsquestion911.com - Survivors

Dette er ofre for krigshandlingen og volden amerikanske myndigheter og sionistbevegelsen utsatte amerikanske sivile for den 11. september 2001. Vi skylder dem alle å bli tatt på alvor. De forteller hva de selv ble utsatt for og observerte disse dramatiske timene. De har vitnet for den offisielle undersøkelseskommisjonen styrt av de samme som sto bak, og felles for dem alle er at de ikke ble hørt. Flere av dem forteller at de ble skadd av en serie eksplosjoner i de nederste etasjene av tårnene på World Trade Center før og etter at bygningene ble truffet. Dette til tross, i den offisielle rapporten bestilt av Bush-administrasjonen står det ikke et ord om disse eksplosjonene!

Av alle de konspirasjonsteoriene som sirkulerer rundt på Internett er dette kanskje den jeg reagerer sterkest på. At amerikanske myndigheter på en eller annen måte, muligens ved hjelp av arabiske terrorister, skulle ha iscenesatt det som hendte 11. september er fullstendig absurd! Jeg tror ikke noe på at det skulle forekommet eksplosjoner i nedre deler av tårnene før flyene traff. Vitnemål kan være falske eller misforstås/misbrukes og bilder/film kan manipuleres. Jeg har sett bilder (det finnes iallfall ett opptak) av tårnene før det første flyet treffer, og der er det ingen tegn på eksplosjoner. Legg også merke til at det er tårnet som ble truffet sist som først kollapset. Dette fordi det ble truffet lengre nede og bæreveggene i tårnet fikk en tyngre vekt å bære. Et moment som visstnok ikke er tatt med i myndighetenes rapport, er at det rant smeltet aluminium fra kledningen nedover langs tårnene, og smeltet aluminium ved svært høy temperatur (bortimot tusen grader) er meget eksplosivt (kilde: dokumentaren Aluminiumsalderen, som jeg reklamerte for i mai, nå dessverre ikke lenger tilgjengelig, se for øvrig http://klimaforskning.com/forum/index.php/topic,1363.msg28574.html#msg28574 )

Konspirasjonsteoretikerne må også komme med en plausibel forklaring på følgende: var de to andre kaprede flyene den dagen iscenesatt som avledningsmanøvre? Jeg tenker da på det flyet som traff Washington, der det drepte 188 mennesker ansatt i USAs forsvarssentrum Pentagon og flyet med mål ukjent fordi det, etter at passasjerene angrep kaprerne fordi de hadde fått høre hva som hadde skjedd andre steder, styrtet på et jorde i Pennsylvania. Hva med bombeangrepene i Madrid, London, Bali og en rekke andre steder. Mener disse konspirasjonsteoretikerne at Osama bin Laden var fri fantasi eller en gallionsfigur iscenesatt av amerikanerne? Ja, er det egentlig rart at jeg kaller slike tanker absurd?

[Amatør1]

Disse eksplosjonene på/under bakkenivå før bygningene blir truffet av fly har jeg ingen filmdokumentasjon om.

Jeg skulle minne deg på at "911 Eyewitness" inneholder film som viser dette, sett fra Hoboken på den andre siden av elva. Den filmen så jeg første gang for 7-8 år siden ...

Nå ser jeg du henviser til nettopp den kilden under. Bra...

Se de første 6 minuttene av denne filmen, så får dere med selvsyn erfare hva som skjedde. De 6 minuttene nevnt fordi de viser eksplosjonen på bakkenivå som jeg nevnte. Se for all del resten av filmen også, som jeg linker til og forteller om fordi den bekrefter vitnemålene fra øyenvitnene om at det var eksplosjoner på bakkenivå og under bakkenivå den 11. september 2001.

http://archive.org/details/911_Eyewitness

Rettelse: Filmen viser ikke eksplosjoner ved bakkenivå før flyene traff, men før tårnene falt.

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Av alle de konspirasjonsteoriene som sirkulerer rundt på Internett er dette kanskje den jeg reagerer sterkest på. At amerikanske myndigheter på en eller annen måte, muligens ved hjelp av arabiske terrorister, skulle ha iscenesatt det som hendte 11. september er fullstendig absurd!

Enig i at dette med de 19 araberne er fullstendig absurd. Det er aldri lagt fram noe bevis for dette, og det er også fullstendig irrelevant for hendelsene. Det er en konspirasjonsteori som Cheney & Bush står bak.

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Jeg tenker da på det flyet som traff Washington, der det drepte 188 mennesker ansatt i USAs forsvarssentrum Pentagon

Har du sett dokumentasjonen nylig postet her, som viser at det som traff Pentagon, ikke kan ha vært American Airlines flight 77, eller et annet Boeing 757-223?

Ta testen "Hunt the Boeing" omtalt her.

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Jeg tenker da på det flyet som traff Washington, der det drepte 188 mennesker ansatt i USAs forsvarssentrum Pentagon

Har du sett dokumentasjonen nylig postet her, som viser at det som traff Pentagon, ikke kan ha vært American Airlines flight 77, eller et annet Boeing 757-223?

Ta testen "Hunt the Boeing" omtalt her.

Tittet såvidt på det, men jeg vil ikke bruke tid på å sette meg inn i dette (også). Noen konspirasjonsteoretikere er svært dyktige til å manipulere folk dit de vil. Hvorfor det ikke finnes biter av flyet? For det første vil jeg ikke bruke tid på å sette meg inn i om dette i det hele tatt stemmer, jeg blir presentert for noen bilder og påstander som jeg skal forholde meg til. Jeg har heller ikke greie på hva som skjer med et stort fly som treffer bakken eller en hard struktur med full kraft (her var det ikke noe forsøk på nødlanding slik mange flystyrter er.) Også vrakrestene i Pennsylvania var så knust at man knapt kunne se at det var et fly som hadde styrtet. Det samme skjedde med det norske Herkulesflyet som fløy rett inn i fjellveggen på Kebnekaise i Sverige nylig. Det var bare småbiter igjen spredd over et stort område. Jeg antar det er slik det går når man flyr inn i noe med full kraft.

Jeg ser at du unngår å svare på de andre spørsmålene jeg stilte om de andre terroraksjonene i andre land. Var disse også iverksatt av amerikanerne? Sier konspirasjonsteoretikerne overhodet noe om dem?

Stemmer det heller ikke at arabiske terrorister (husker ikke om det var bin Laden selv) prøvde å ødelegge World Trade Center allerede i 1993, den gang ved hjelp av en bombe?

Og hva i all verden skjedde med flight 77 hvis det ikke ble styrtet i Pentagon? Hvis jeg ikke husker feil fortalte CNN at de tilfeldigvis hadde en av sine reportere ombord på det flyet.

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Du vet det, translator: Det nytter ikke å diskutere seriøst med noen som overhodet ikke har noe ønske om å forstå Det er vanskelig å uttale seg om noe man mangler kunnskap om. Konservative mennesker i Norge har problemer med å forstå at USAs politiske styresmakter kan gjøre noe galt. Hvem er det forresten som "eier" USA? Da tenker jeg på trykket den enorme gjelden de har må føre til. Før du slenger rundt deg med beskyldninger om konspirasjonsteorier burde du kanskje søke litt kunnskap?